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Anyone else excited for this movie? It’s gotten excellent reviews so far from that film festival.
Looks like it's going to be really good. Early articles I've read about Phoenix said he's terrific.
I thought this was a thread about a HOF poster.
LOL, so did I. I just changed the thread title to hopefully clear that up
Nice read about it 2 days ago in the NY Times:
Joaquin Phoenix, the Wild Card of ‘Joker’
I'm definitely going to see this
Phoenix is an excellent actor. His body of work speaks for itself. Definitely one of my favorites, but I also see Michael Shannon in the same vein, taking on those dark, brooding type of roles and just turning them into magic.
I would gladly watch a 90 minute movie where he just rambles incoherently about how badly the Jets suck and what a crook Goodell is.
It looks really dark, twisted, and sadistic. They dumped the comic stuff and went reality. Maybe all too real. I think it will be thrilling to see.
Pretty good insight on the film from the Huffington Post. Forgetting the commentary, the context of the film is interesting and I'm definitely looking forward to seeing it:
'Joker' Sends In The Clown But Doesn’t Know What To Say About Him
Looking forward to it as well. This should be a good alternative to the Disney-fied Marvel movies. Disney does the grand spectacle well but many of their movies for me are a bit formulaic and more attention is given to spectacle over plot and character development. Fun to watch and eat popcorn to but doesn't leave much of an impression. Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight and Batman Begins are the gold standard comic book movies for me and this one looks more in that vein.
Yeesh, this is disturbing ... link: https://nypost.com/2019/09/25/us-ar..._medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_4509573
In all seriousness, this is why I bring my gun into movie theaters nowadays. Before the movie begins, I usually squeeze off a couple of rounds into the ceiling from inside the theater to make sure it’s firing correctly. You can never be too safe.
Hilarious. Who are those guys?
This movie sure is whipping up some controversy. Problem is you already know what it's about and how the plot will run ... It looks kind of depressing, actually -- making a mentally ill character turned evil into a sympathetic "hero."
From what I’ve read there’s nothing sympathetic about him
I've read (born out by trailers) that he's a disadvantaged outcast of low self-esteem who is treated cruelly by others to where he morphs into a twisted maniac celebrated by the defiant downtrodden. Seems like a truly heartwarming cinematic experience.
Why does it have to be a truly heartwarming experience? I remember seeing Seven which was a movie that wasn’t all to heartwarming, but it was a damn good flick.
The Joker is a character who’s been around for about 80 years. He’s a homicidal maniac. From what I’ve read the portrayal does not come off a sympathetic to the audience. He gets crazier and crazier as the movie progresses.
I was being sarcastic.
I know, movies can be appreciated without necessarily making you feel good. This new one just looks really dark from all angles and there's an element out there sick enough to run the wrong way with what it portrays. Hence, the concern made public about it inspiring potential shooters.
That’s a pretty slippery slope though. Are we now supposed to censor art because in 2019 someone may use it as an excuse to shoot others? I personally think that if you’re willing to go on a shooting spree over a Joker movie you were already pretty f**ked up to begin with and it’s not the movie that’s the problem.
No, I'm not advocating censorship of any kind. This might be an excellent film for what it is and all reports are that Phoenix does a great job with the role. One review I read suggests that it holds a mirror up to our real current society which, if true, suggests we're a pretty deranged bunch. Audiences will take from that what they will depending on subjective interpretation. People by turns will find it funny, chilling, depressing, empowering or some combination of all that. Personally speaking for myself it probably isn't something I'll want to spend money on but will check out when it hits cable.
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