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Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by PatriotsReign, Dec 15, 2009.

  1. DarrylS

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    Delete it then..
     

  2. PatriotsReign

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    Is it that important to you?

    Nice way to ASK someone to do you a favor....:rolleyes:

    I'll delete my post if you delete your first (riduculous) post. and then we could do this all day.
     
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    Can we afford this?

    Awwww, never mind. Lets just do it anyway. Who's got the credit card?
     
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    Hey ppl get $1500 per kid, I don't see you *****ing about the government giving money to them.......Or how about them Bush tax cuts for the rich.........

    Its a good idea and it creates JOBS! You right-wingers really need to look in the mirror before you go calling out some government program.

    Even if you where already going to "buy it" this gives you even more of an incentive to do so. Your just a hater give it up already.....
     
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    Could we afford an Iraq war? and we afford a tax cut for the rich?


    We did it then, will do it now.
     
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    I don't really have a problem with this.
     
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    But of course not.......
     
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    Where Is Fog & Press Cover

    :confused::confused::confused:
     
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  9. PatriotsReign

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    "You right-wingers"....

    Guess what? I'm a moderate democrat who is fiscally conservative. But let's talk about you.

    You'll defend any and ALL Obama proposals because you don't have the courage or the original thinking to ever criticize his policies.

    Do date, I have not read a single criticism of Obama from you. What do you think he is, a saint sent from God above?

    Stop following the herd.
     
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    Why not?

    What are the benefits as you see them?
     
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    So because we did stupid things in the past, that means we should do more stupid things? I don't think that logic adds up really.
     
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    BINGO!!!!!

    We have a winner!!:eat3:
     
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    1) Job creation

    2) Energy efficiency

    Granted, I would need to see the specifics of the program before giving a final evaluation, either way.
     
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    How does walking into Sears and buying a new fridge create jobs?

    What's efficient about motivating people to spend what they don't have on replacing what might not be inefficient?
     
  15. PatriotsReign

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    You forgot #3. You should read a little about how such proposal can have oversight....not really possible.

    All this proposal would do is shift demand forward. Just like what happened to cash for clunkers. What do you think is happening with car sales now that it's over?

    Answer: Not much
     
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    I think the number is high, and invites abuse.. if it was done similarly to the window program currently in effect it would be much better... i.e. a tax credit up to $1500..
     
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    Excellent point Darryl. I agree that's a better method.

    But....at some point we have to ask ourselves how much are we willing to increase our deficit in an (likely failed) attempt to get us out of recession?
     
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    It doesn't. It's like the cash for clunkers program. It gets the American tax payer to subsidize other Americans buying stuff that they were going buy anyway (cuz their stuff needs to get replaced).

    I won't participate, because I don't need new appliances. However, if I was looking at my old fridge that I was gonna have to replace in 6-7 anyway, I jump at the chance to take some of PR's tax money to do it.

    The net effect to the economy in the long term is 1 fridge...... minus some tax $$. It's not like people who don't need them are gonna go out and buy them. They didn't with cars?
     
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    It's a great idea. It will put a lot of money back into the US economy, which will in turn help improve the economy.
     
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    It certainly is NOT a great idea Patters. Who will over see the distribution of these funds? How will be sure it's not wasteful?

    Just as an FYI....we have very little money to spend moving forward, so we better be sure this will be effective.
     

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