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    Anyone finish yet? I binged it in 3 days. What.a.show.

    The way it's shot. The acting. I love it. Hopefully there will be a season 3.
     
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    Boy, you guys are really on the Mindhunter, around here. Damn.
     
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    Yes, it’s been talked about in the Casual Chat thread. They are talking about doing five seasons. Fingers crossed.
     
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    This could be a really good show, but too many distractions along the way... just stick with the subject and avoid all the relationship crap...
     
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    When it comes to Holden’s relationship in season one, I agree. It did nothing to advance his development as a character. When it comes to Tench’s relationship with his wife and son (and wow, what a shocker that was), not so much. There are valuable insights to his and his wife’s character. I’m assuming there will be some into his son’s as well but I just got past *that* episode. Dr. Carr’s lesbian relationship with the bartender I’m not far enough into yet. She only went bowling with her the last episode I watched.
     
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    The interview w Manson was creepy as hell.... I'm waiting to see who they interview in season 3, Heidnik? Ramirez?
     
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    What I like about the famous serial killers is you really don’t know what you’re going to get. Some of them are legitimately disturbed and interesting with a lot to offer the detectives. Other are basically low-IQ idiots with zero self-awareness and/or just killed to become famous. I like that Holden realizes that this these interviews are more “tryouts” and that not all of these guys are even worth talking to. The Berkowitz interview early in the season shows the shift in philosophy.
     
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    Bundy will be the big watershed moment.
     
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    Hadn't even thought about that.....
     
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    I watched the first season and will probably keep watching, thought it was pretty good. But one problem I have with this type of thing is it’s about profiling and how important it is to get into the minds of the killers and all, but best I can tell that doesn’t help to actually, you know, catch anybody.

    Like they’re flash forwarding to BTK, and he was caught after he sent police a floppy disk with his name in it, after he asked if that was safe to do. I mean, it comes down to dumb mistakes and DNA, seems to me. Still entertaining though.
     
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    Bundy had that arrogance about him. Randomly ranting. Being his own lawyer during his trial. A true monster where his brain had many levels very few reach
     
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    In Season 1 there were two instances of a younger killer caught, who had all the signs of developing into a serial killer, or at least very violent person who is likely to kill again. But Season 1 is largely centered around establishing a program with a mere 3-4 people; they’re going to need a lot of growth and funding, and many years of research, to become very effective. Not sure what you mean that they can’t catch anyone. Sure, they can’t catch these guys before they commit murders, but they can catch them before they commit more.

    I brought that up that same point about BTK in another thread and was told additional things. The FBI had to establish his trust and were in contact with him through classified newspaper ads. They also tricked him into believing the disk was not traceable. I imagine quite a bit of psychological understanding went into how to manipulate him.
     
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    I’m going to say that this is in competition with Better Call Saul for best show on TV right now.
     
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    My real-world impression is that profiling doesn't catch anyone. With BTK, I think he wrote and said, duh, is it cool if I mail a disk? And they said, sure buddy, not a problem.

    Who knows, I'm not expert. I just think while it's really cool in fiction, profiling maybe doesn't do much to actually catch these guys.
     
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    Netflix has "Conversations with a killer" the Ted Bundy tapes.. Not for my tastes but whatever.......
     
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    But this is based on a non-fiction book and many of the actual events are factual.
     
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    It isn’t even necessarily a profile they’re building that creates pretty novel concepts in the early 80s. Some of the very basic principles discovered by the team in S1 and S2 are instrumental in helping local and state police catch these killers. A few basic concepts that have been introduced that made huge differences in who police were targeting when these types of murder occur:

    1. There is always a sexual component to crimes for serial killers, even if forensic evidence does not point to it.

    2. Serial killers almost never cross over racial lines.

    3. Serial killers are almost always male.

    4. A serial killer often returns to the scene of the crime.

    5. Often, serial killers will try to become close to the case, or at least won’t distance himself. They’ll often offer to help, volunteer, or attend events related to the crimes.

    6. In terms of an assailant’s (age), it is usually suggested by manner of death and strength of the perpetrator, or other peripheral clues.

    Just based on these principles alone, a “profile” can begin to be established much easier. And it isn’t that complicated...more or just a like a “see the light” moment like sabermetrics in baseball.
     
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    I’m on the finale for Season 2. The conversation between Holden and Williams at Williams’ house is mesmerizing. Holden is already so far in his head, Williams should be charging him rent.
     
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    Never heard of this show. What channel is it on?
     
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    It’s on Netflix.
     
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