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Discussion in 'NFL Football Forum' started by Joey007, Feb 4, 2018.

  1. Soliel

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    Butler was partying and doing whatever.

    He got benched for it
     
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    I agree with the article about Bill’s gameplay going in.

    What I, and most other fans, don’t get is why didn’t he adapt? It wasn’t working. We were getting killed. Chung should never have been on Agholor. On 3rd downs Butler should have gone in.

    Gilmore/Jeffrey
    Butler/Agholor
    Rowe/Smith
    Chung/Ertz

    That’s the lineup we should have went to, especially on 3rd downs. Belichick needed to adapt once the Defensive gameplay was circling the toilet.
     
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    So Bill outgeniused himself...
     
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    He was active because we only have 3 other corners. He was the 4th corner. If there were injuries he would have played. It wasn’t butler you scumbag you will never pkay for me. It was butler you aren’t ready to help in this game so I’m going to play other pkayers who are.
    Why did he come out for the kickoff? Why did Karras? He is a player on the team who’s role was reduced to last man at his position. That doesn’t mean stay in the locker room.

    I don’t knie what he did. I suspect he just handled the demotion poorly and melted down and by kick off belichick felt he wasn’t an option to ojay effectuveky in any role.



    It’s not principles.
    Let’s try something else.
    I think butler was mentally unable to help the team. Between not getting the gane plan, not handling his demotion well, and melting down.
    He was still a better option than not having a corner at all. This isn’t punishment, retribution, anger or hatred.
    So let’s assume for a moment it was a physical injury. He injured a leg. He was able to run at 85% which meant he could play but everyone else at his position was a better option.
    Making him the 4th corner isn’t a matter of principles it’s a matter of you can use him in an emergency but can’t count on him to be effective.
    That example is the only way in my opinion that all the info we have fits together.

    Other than belichick threw the game, or suddenly one day changed everything he is about and lost his mind, what realistic alternative explanation is there?
     
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    Go look at those keys drive in the second half. He had 78 yards. Also had Richards on Ertz on a key 3rd down. They where making it manageable because of agholor. It's still incomprehensible what bill did but the iggles sure liked it.
     
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    aluminum seats Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    They lost to the Bills 31-0.
     
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    No he f.ucking wasn’t.
     
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    Bill's whole career is based on forcing teams to work the ball down the field. You figure he just decided "Screw it! Let them beat us with all the quick strikes they want!", and then realized that was bad only after Rowe'd been smoked multiple times?

    Anything's possible, I guess.
     
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    When it was 22-19 and the eagles had the ball we had chung on agholor and Richards on ertz. Tell me how that's not ridiculous?! They went on to score a td. No sh*t
     
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    Really? it's pretty obvious to me that BB was not putting Butler in come hell or high water. And sure enough, it came.
     
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    Chung on agholor and Richards on ertz on a big 3rd down's very foolish. I was hoping we could surprise them with a blitz. They did none of that. It was like a slow death on defense.
     
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    Take your pick Ertz/agholor agholor/Ertz

    They were both getting open easily
     
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    It was a pretty fast death, from what I could see, over and over again.
     
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    Chung also got hurt and had to come out twice for a couple of plays. Did we THEN go to our 2nd CB? Nope. We put some other JAG out there. I was at the game and we honestly thought Butler was sick or injured. Never in a million years did we guess that he had been intentionally benched. Unreal.
     
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    No ertz was. But agholor was pretty good too.
     
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    ....and the started 2-2 and won the SB
     
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    What a completely retarded game plan if true.

    You play your best players. You never play Richards, ever, in no circumstance is it a good idea that Lee or Richards play any snaps in the Superbowl.

    What's even worse is they should have known the game plan was crap at halftime, but decided to stick with it. Even when Chung went out they never played Butler. Total BS.
     
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    Again he made it manageable for the eagles. Just look at the drives as a whole. I was imagining if butler had been on agholor. Jeffery was being contained. The whole scheme change when butler didn't play. Like someone mentioned it created a domino effect.
     
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    I looked at them. In fact there is a rewatch thread with gifs. It was Ertz.
     
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