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Kdo5

Pro Bowl Player
Proof for your crazy conspiracy theory?

The fact is according to medical centers the numbers being reported are BS, deal with it.
It's been headline news that Trump has ordered hospitals to direct all Covid data directly to his underlings, bypassing the CDC. Not given to the scientists, but straight to the politicians.

I know that doesn't mean anything to you. You can't recognize that the Trump administration is corrupt to its core. So you'll expect everyone to believe bat **** conspiracies instead of reality because it doesn't fit your narrative.
 

vuudu

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God save those who rely on getting informed from these people. Foxnews is my favorite news channel but it is not to get informed but to understand how certain people think. They teach me a lot on what not to do.
America needs to take these people to task. All of them.
 

lancerman

In the Starting Line-Up
God save those who rely on getting informed from these people. Foxnews is my favorite news channel but it is not to get informed but to understand how certain people think. They teach me a lot on what not to do.
America needs to take these people to task. All of them.
I’m convinced they post here
 

FCB02062

Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract
Buried in this article is the juicy nugget that, yup, TX is indeed engaging in f#ckery when it comes to wuhan flu "cases" and reporting....even though the Marxists and Antifa Fans in here don't talk about it, ALL these "probable" cases are indeed listed in these bloated "case" #s we're seeing from southern and other states...

Texas coronavirus deaths hit triple digits as cases rise

Meanwhile, the Texas Department of State Health Services removed 3,484 previously reported probable cases from statewide and Bexar County case totals, an agency spokesman said Wednesday.

The San Antonio health department began separating confirmed and probable cases this week, Chris Van Deusen, a spokesman for the state health agency, told the American-Statesman.

“Since we report confirmed cases on our dashboard, we have removed 3,484 previously reported probable cases from the statewide and Bexar County totals,” Van Deusen said in an email.
 

A Defiant Goose

In the Starting Line-Up
I don't know which one of you angry guys replying to me to this thread it was but I just wanted to say something.

One of you guys (not sure which side of the argument you were on) said that the idea behind limited government intervention should be met with personal responsibility. That our "reward" to the government for not overreaching is simply being responsible enough so their overreach isn't needed. I want you to know that you, whoever you are, really hit me with that statement and successfully changed my mind and made me decide to start wearing a mask. I don't have to wear one in NH unless the business requires it but when you put it that way (and I'm doing it on my own free will) I think I'll start wearing one.

All of you who insulted, name called, shamed, and whatever have you can suck my ass. To the person who talked to me and made a genuine attempt to change my mind just want you to know it worked
 

vuudu

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I don't know which one of you angry guys replying to me to this thread it was but I just wanted to say something.

One of you guys (not sure which side of the argument you were on) said that the idea behind limited government intervention should be met with personal responsibility. That our "reward" to the government for not overreaching is simply being responsible enough so their overreach isn't needed. I want you to know that you, whoever you are, really hit me with that statement and successfully changed my mind and made me decide to start wearing a mask. I don't have to wear one in NH unless the business requires it but when you put it that way (and I'm doing it on my own free will) I think I'll start wearing one.

All of you who insulted, name called, shamed, and whatever have you can suck my ass. To the person who talked to me and made a genuine attempt to change my mind just want you to know it worked
Are you serious? Forums like this can change minds? If you are serious then I have to start putting a lot of thought into what I write here.
 

betterthanthealternative

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I don't know which one of you angry guys replying to me to this thread it was but I just wanted to say something.

One of you guys (not sure which side of the argument you were on) said that the idea behind limited government intervention should be met with personal responsibility. That our "reward" to the government for not overreaching is simply being responsible enough so their overreach isn't needed. I want you to know that you, whoever you are, really hit me with that statement and successfully changed my mind and made me decide to start wearing a mask. I don't have to wear one in NH unless the business requires it but when you put it that way (and I'm doing it on my own free will) I think I'll start wearing one.

All of you who insulted, name called, shamed, and whatever have you can suck my ass. To the person who talked to me and made a genuine attempt to change my mind just want you to know it worked

Here's how I see it. The "freedom" in "free will" is something we have to construct society to make possible. So, we employ specialists (in this case, health scientists) to make their best estimate at what's likely to happen, and how we can collectively all contribute to that. That coming together to make decisions about collective action, is the highest form of the expression of free will. It is humankind at its best, because it reflect compromise and long term thinking that leads to everyone having a better life. It puts the front of the brain in charge, that which differentiates us as humans, rather than the parts of the brain that we share with most animals.

It takes personal, psychological work to get to the point of being able to rise to this. Doing that work is the definition of patriotism.
 

betterthanthealternative

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Buried in this article is the juicy nugget that, yup, TX is indeed engaging in f#ckery when it comes to wuhan flu "cases" and reporting....even though the Marxists and Antifa Fans in here don't talk about it, ALL these "probable" cases are indeed listed in these bloated "case" #s we're seeing from southern and other states...

Texas coronavirus deaths hit triple digits as cases rise

Meanwhile, the Texas Department of State Health Services removed 3,484 previously reported probable cases from statewide and Bexar County case totals, an agency spokesman said Wednesday.

The San Antonio health department began separating confirmed and probable cases this week, Chris Van Deusen, a spokesman for the state health agency, told the American-Statesman.

“Since we report confirmed cases on our dashboard, we have removed 3,484 previously reported probable cases from the statewide and Bexar County totals,” Van Deusen said in an email.

What's the % of probable cases that are actual positives?
Why do you see this as some kind of premeditated act to control people, rather than simply the act of people trying to manage an overwhelmed system in unprecedented times?
 

A Defiant Goose

In the Starting Line-Up
Are you serious? Forums like this can change minds? If you are serious then I have to start putting a lot of thought into what I write here.
I can be pretty stubborn and principled but I'm pretty willing to find common ground with people and even be convinced otherwise on things.
 

Kdo5

Pro Bowl Player
I don't know which one of you angry guys replying to me to this thread it was but I just wanted to say something.

One of you guys (not sure which side of the argument you were on) said that the idea behind limited government intervention should be met with personal responsibility. That our "reward" to the government for not overreaching is simply being responsible enough so their overreach isn't needed. I want you to know that you, whoever you are, really hit me with that statement and successfully changed my mind and made me decide to start wearing a mask. I don't have to wear one in NH unless the business requires it but when you put it that way (and I'm doing it on my own free will) I think I'll start wearing one.

All of you who insulted, name called, shamed, and whatever have you can suck my ass. To the person who talked to me and made a genuine attempt to change my mind just want you to know it worked
Well that's good, whoever it was who convinced you. But you can do a lot more than just wear a mask. You can educate others to wear ones too.
 

1960Pats

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Was hoping to stay away from President Trump

Yea, right.

The only person you'll be staying away from in this thread about idiotic things said by a politician, is Joe Biden, the King of Dementia.
 

1960Pats

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Actually a lot of you implied Covid would be a walk in the park “it’s just the flu”

A lot of people did not say that. Why don't you provide a link to all those people who did?

Can the other side now claim that a lot of you not only implied, but predicted a far worse scenario with millions of deaths in America?
 

1960Pats

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It's been headline news that Trump has ordered hospitals to direct all Covid data directly to his underlings, bypassing the CDC. Not given to the scientists, but straight to the politicians.

I know that doesn't mean anything to you. You can't recognize that the Trump administration is corrupt to its core. So you'll expect everyone to believe bat **** conspiracies instead of reality because it doesn't fit your narrative.

The CDC is also political, and that doesn't change the fact that the Covid death numbers may be being misrepresented for a number of reasons, financial as well as political.

Here's a decent debate on the subject that you could watch...

 

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