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PP2

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The affair made me angry at first and now it makes me sad. These kids came to the us 10 years ago and went to school here, that is about as Americanized as it gets for a foreigner. So who brainwashed them or how did they brainwash themselves into committing this act and then going on a murderous/suicidal run? The real monsters are the brainwashers.
They were here as long as five years ago and by all definitions were unrooted, did not make many friends, and felt isolated, shut out (per their internet rants) so this most likely was misdirected adolescent rage that simply found an outlet in Islamic extremism. This isn't something they thought out very carefully.

I don't mean to humanize them in any way, but let's not give islamic extremism any more power than it deserves. The reality is that Islamic extremism is a very small group of people, and a very small, radical, fringe element of Islam.
 

belichick010405

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They were here as long as five years ago and by all definitions were unrooted, did not make many friends, and felt isolated, shut out (per their internet rants) so this most likely was misdirected adolescent rage that simply found an outlet in Islamic extremism. This isn't something they thought out very carefully.

I don't mean to humanize them in any way, but let's not give islamic extremism any more power than it deserves. The reality is that Islamic extremism is a very small group of people, and a very small, radical, fringe element of Islam.
PP - Suspect #2 is supposedly a student at UMass-Dartmouth so if he is indeed a student over there, I would like to think that he had friends. FWIW - his father also thinks that he is a medical student even though UMass-Dartmouth has no medical school.
 

Observer

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They were here as long as five years ago and by all definitions were unrooted, did not make many friends, and felt isolated, shut out (per their internet rants) so this most likely was misdirected adolescent rage that simply found an outlet in Islamic extremism. This isn't something they thought out very carefully.

I don't mean to humanize them in any way, but let's not give islamic extremism any more power than it deserves. The reality is that Islamic extremism is a very small group of people, and a very small, radical, fringe element of Islam.
I agree with everything you said. I just put much much greater blame on the ones that preach extremism than these misled youth that went out to kill and die for it.
 

KontradictioN

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So in your opinion hitler was not the real monster?
I've literally never seen so many logical fallacies committed in ten words than I do here. To respond to your irrelevant question, Hitler was a monster. That doesn't mean that we should excuse and feel sorry for the SS.
 

Observer

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I've literally never seen so many logical fallacies committed in ten words than I do here. To respond to your irrelevant question, Hitler was a monster. That doesn't mean that we should excuse and feel sorry for the SS.
I don't care about formal logic here, you know my point. I don't wish to continue this bickering with you.
 

belichick010405

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Ok - CNN has done something right. They are able to confirm that Suspect #2 was a UMass-Dartmouth student. Damn.....That hits close to home.
 

KDPPatsfan85

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This is ironic....

the deceased suspect became a US citizen September 11, 2012 according to Pete Williams NBC news.

Zeke Miller ‏@ZekeJMiller 6m
RT @nbcnightlynews: Deceased suspect became U.S. citizen on September 11, 2012 - @PeteWilliamsNBC via @jonathan4ny
 

ctpatsfan77

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PP - Suspect #2 is supposedly a student at UMass-Dartmouth so if he is indeed a student over there, I would like to think that he had friends. FWIW - his father also thinks that he is a medical student even though UMass-Dartmouth has no medical school.
I'm guessing he was pre-med, then, and the father doesn't understand the unusual US distinction of having undergrad before med school.
 

shmessy

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How much can two guys carry while they carjack somebody, then throw stuff out the car window at cops, then get into a shootout?

I'd think he'd be running a little low after all of that, but who knows. Maybe he just has a vest left. I wish he'd go ahead use it while nobody was around.
I don't care about his life at this time, but I do care about his HUMINT - - - and so should you.
 

SVN

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Scanner: Female in Watertown texting her mother that she is being held my a male with a gun #boston
 

mb6592

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The reality is that Islamic extremism is a very small group of people, and a very small, radical, fringe element of Islam.
May be irrelevant, really, when you consider the amount of destruction that even a small number of adherents can inflict. In the end, relevance will be determined by the frequency of these attacks and the citizens' tolerance for watching their loved ones choose between jumping out of a burning skyscraper instead or burning alive or having to watch their kids slaughtered while attending kindergarten (e.g. Beslan school massacre).
 
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