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amfootball

Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract
He's had a lot of injuries in a very short career. Do not see this guy lasting into his late 30s.
His style of play puts so much stress on his body and shoulder because he is an unorthodox player. Those type of players don't have long careers. He will have to change the way Big Ben and Rodgers did in order to be able to play well into his 30s. It remains to be seen if he can become that type of player though. He relies so much on his physical gifts to save him and his team. He has to learn to trust what he is seeing and live to play another down or another game.
 

Cam2HarryGOAT

On the Game Day Roster
Lol very aggressive.

Anyways what in your right mind makes you think that the best QB in the league in a relatively weak conference won't make it back soon, let alone next year, while a team with no QB, no receivers, no TEs, no LBs will be back before the Chiefs?
The "best QB in the league" is injury prone and has two weapons on offense. One of which is an aging tight end on the wrong side of 30. The team is top heavy with most of the money going to a few guys (and Hill) and given Mahomes massive contract there is little room to add sorely needed depth. The history of the NFL is littered with flash in the pan teams who win one and never repeat. The Seahawks being the most recent example. If Jimmy G does not wet himself in quarter four of last year's SuperBowl Mahomes still has zero titles. So to act like this team is a lock, or even likely to win another SuperBowl in whatever short window they have left with their flawed roster construction is just silly. Especially with Brady, Favre and even a vastly improved Rams team still lurking in the NFC. To say nothing of how a Watson trade (and free agency in general) might change the landscape in the AFC. I would not be at all surprised if KC never won another one. They were nearly knocked out of the playoffs by Baker Mayfield, for christ's sake. With his best WR watching from the sidelines.
Like I said, they are in better shape than us right now. But the bill for their short term success is coming soon and they likely turn into the Seahawks, at best, at that point. Meanwhile, we have the best coach in football, a guy that just won 7 games with probably the worst offense in football and several holes on defense. I trust that guy to rebuild a little more than I trust the Chiefs to be a decent team in five years.

If they win another title (or multiple) in the next few years, good for them. But it's completely reasonable to think that they wont. And if they don't. Pats likely beat them to the punch on the next one. Sorry if my opinion was unclear.
 

PatsWSB47

Pro Bowl Player
He was limping around. However, the chiefs biggest problems were mainly pass protection and drops by the receivers.
The defense surrounded the KC receivers this time. We didn't see wide open uncontested passes being completed this time. I think the "dropped passes" had a lot to do with the Buccs defense. The pass rush was relentless and having starters out contributed. However the Bucs pass rush had figured it out back in the 2nd half of the first game when KC was a lot healthier.
 

203Pat

Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract
The "best QB in the league" is injury prone and has two weapons on offense. One of which is an aging tight end on the wrong side of 30. The team is top heavy with most of the money going to a few guys (and Hill) and given Mahomes massive contract there is little room to add sorely needed depth. The history of the NFL is littered with flash in the pan teams who win one and never repeat. The Seahawks being the most recent example. If Jimmy G does not wet himself in quarter four of last year's SuperBowl Mahomes still has zero titles. So to act like this team is a lock, or even likely to win another SuperBowl in whatever short window they have left with their flawed roster construction is just silly. Especially with Brady, Favre and even a vastly improved Rams team still lurking in the NFC. To say nothing of how a Watson trade (and free agency in general) might change the landscape in the AFC. I would not be at all surprised if KC never won another one. They were nearly knocked out of the playoffs by Baker Mayfield, for christ's sake. With his best WR watching from the sidelines.
Like I said, they are in better shape than us right now. But the bill for their short term success is coming soon and they likely turn into the Seahawks, at best, at that point. Meanwhile, we have the best coach in football, a guy that just won 7 games with probably the worst offense in football and several holes on defense. I trust that guy to rebuild a little more than I trust the Chiefs to be a decent team in five years.

If they win another title (or multiple) in the next few years, good for them. But it's completely reasonable to think that they wont. And if they don't. Pats likely beat them to the punch on the next one. Sorry if my opinion was unclear.
He has missed two games due to injury since he took over as a starter so I am not sure how he is "injury prone". I am not saying this is a dynasty but to think that the Patriots who haven't even started a rebuild yet will win a super bowl before the guy who has lost 8 regular season games in 3 years is asinine. I'm not saying it is unreasonable to think the Chiefs won't win one in the next year or two. What I am saying is it is ridiculous to say that we are more likely to win one in the next few years.
 

Efstratios

Third String But Playing on Special Teams
The "best QB in the league" is injury prone and has two weapons on offense. One of which is an aging tight end on the wrong side of 30. The team is top heavy with most of the money going to a few guys (and Hill) and given Mahomes massive contract there is little room to add sorely needed depth. The history of the NFL is littered with flash in the pan teams who win one and never repeat. The Seahawks being the most recent example. If Jimmy G does not wet himself in quarter four of last year's SuperBowl Mahomes still has zero titles. So to act like this team is a lock, or even likely to win another SuperBowl in whatever short window they have left with their flawed roster construction is just silly. Especially with Brady, Favre and even a vastly improved Rams team still lurking in the NFC. To say nothing of how a Watson trade (and free agency in general) might change the landscape in the AFC. I would not be at all surprised if KC never won another one. They were nearly knocked out of the playoffs by Baker Mayfield, for christ's sake. With his best WR watching from the sidelines.
Like I said, they are in better shape than us right now. But the bill for their short term success is coming soon and they likely turn into the Seahawks, at best, at that point. Meanwhile, we have the best coach in football, a guy that just won 7 games with probably the worst offense in football and several holes on defense. I trust that guy to rebuild a little more than I trust the Chiefs to be a decent team in five years.

If they win another title (or multiple) in the next few years, good for them. But it's completely reasonable to think that they wont. And if they don't. Pats likely beat them to the punch on the next one. Sorry if my opinion was unclear.
Not to be that guy, but I'm presuming you meant Rodgers here?
 

TheRainMaker

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2020 Weekly NFL Picks Winner
Carroll didn't make the wrong call. Belichick let the clock run to force that play, and the Pats had practiced against it all week. Pure preparation. No other team/coach would have played it like BB did (yet another reason the hate for him on this board is utterly ridiculous).
But what if Butler couldn't make a play on the ball like he did? Because BB put all his chips in and relied on his D to win it. Had Butler not made a play, BB would've been crucified and Brady probably walks a lot sooner than he did. On the flip side, you have Marty Schottenheimer (RIP) tell his DB's that if they INT the ball late in the game to just fall down. What does the idiot DB do? He runs around and Troy Brown strips the ball out. Marty gets blamed and fired.
Bad drafts tend to happen to teams that pick 29-32 every year.
Plenty of talent after the first 29-32 picks. There was no excuse for the Pats taking Harry over Brown, Metcalf, and Samuel who were all clearly better than him. And the way BB maneuvers around the draft constantly allows him to get guys he wants.
 

JMC00

Pro Bowl Player
He was limping around. However, the chiefs biggest problems were mainly pass protection and drops by the receivers.

Pats fans saw Brady take a bigger beating in the AFCC 2015 game with receivers being held all game (and some drops), Brady had that team from a missed Ghostowksi PAT from probably winning that game.
 

MAC10

Big Mac Jones fan
2020 Weekly NFL Picks Winner
Pats fans saw Brady take a bigger beating in the AFCC 2015 game with receivers being held all game (and some drops), Brady had that team from a missed Ghostowksi PAT from probably winning that game.

I'm not taking away anything from Brady. My comments had to do with Mahomes.
 

amfootball

Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract
He has missed two games due to injury since he took over as a starter so I am not sure how he is "injury prone". I am not saying this is a dynasty but to think that the Patriots who haven't even started a rebuild yet will win a super bowl before the guy who has lost 8 regular season games in 3 years is asinine. I'm not saying it is unreasonable to think the Chiefs won't win one in the next year or two. What I am saying is it is ridiculous to say that we are more likely to win one in the next few years.
I agree. I think the Bills are the team to get to the SB ahead of the Chiefs as soon as next year.
 

venecol

The FRG has a little ****
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Trouble? No. They've got the toughest position in football figured out for the next 15 years. Mahomes will be ok. Every great QB sans Montana has had to sit through tough questions after a SB loss. Brady, Favre, Elway, Marino, Big Ben, Manning, and Kelly.

Dynasty? Probably not.

But the Kelce I saw last night isn't the guy I want to see going forward. That was concerning.

Hardman clearly hasn't taken that next step. At some point you need to rise up when your #1 receiver is taken out of the game.

Look both tackles were out. Not an excuse. It's a fact. That can't be overstated. I thought Pat could overcome this. I was wrong.

The GOAT discussion: Over. Not as if there was a legit convo to have there anyways. 0-2 against Brady in the postseason. Needs at least 8 rings (Could be 9 rings by the time Brady retires) to surpass Brady. Not going to happen.

Congrats to Tom Brady and the Bucs. I'm confident these teams will meet again in the near future.
You bent the knee and kissed the ring. You can stay.
 

Cam2HarryGOAT

On the Game Day Roster
You bent the knee and kissed the ring. You can stay.
He has missed two games due to injury since he took over as a starter so I am not sure how he is "injury prone". I am not saying this is a dynasty but to think that the Patriots who haven't even started a rebuild yet will win a super bowl before the guy who has lost 8 regular season games in 3 years is asinine. I'm not saying it is unreasonable to think the Chiefs won't win one in the next year or two. What I am saying is it is ridiculous to say that we are more likely to win one in the next few years.
He's been dinged up a lot and played through some injuries. Yes, it would be ridiculous to claim that we are more likely to win one in the next few years than the Chiefs. Which is why I didn't even almost say that.
 

Cam2HarryGOAT

On the Game Day Roster
I will tell you who is definitely in trouble. Tyreke Hill's girlfriend, boyfriend, pets, children and stepchildren. I bet they all got beaten and bloodied Sunday night. Maybe a few random preggos in KC too
 

203Pat

Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract
He's been dinged up a lot and played through some injuries. Yes, it would be ridiculous to claim that we are more likely to win one in the next few years than the Chiefs. Which is why I didn't even almost say that.
This isn’t you?

“In the short term, sure. Decent chance the Pats win their next title before the Chiefs.”
 

MahomestoKelce

Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job
Yes he's played through injuries. But I'm not sure that would constitute "Injury prone". He's missed like 4 out of 48 regular season games. And one injury is because of the coach calling a dumb play in Denver.

I also don't think there's a book out on the offense. Or that TB provided a blueprint on stopping an explosive offense. Unless said blueprint includes the opposition having the best defense in football. While said offense is without two all pro guards.

No QB would've won behind center for the Chiefs Sunday. Within one second they were in the backfield.


I'm not making excuses for him. It's reality.
 

venecol

The FRG has a little ****
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The defense surrounded the KC receivers this time. We didn't see wide open uncontested passes being completed this time. I think the "dropped passes" had a lot to do with the Buccs defense. The pass rush was relentless and having starters out contributed. However the Bucs pass rush had figured it out back in the 2nd half of the first game when KC was a lot healthier.
Thank you. Everyone makes it sound like Mahomes made these amazing throws and the receivers simply dropped them. Lmao. All of those throws were more likely to be picked off than completed. They were all into double or even triple coverages. They were all contested. Some may have hit DBs fingers. We saw how one ended up in the White INT. Mahomes could've just as likely had 2 TD / 2 INT or 0 TD / 5 INT off those throws.

Even in baseball, a great off balance throw (these are baseball throws) is only admired if it results in an out. The throws were stupid, desperation shots.

Contrast those throws with Brady's beautiful clean passes from the pocket to locations where only his receivers had a chance to catch them. It's night and day. One is a "Professional " football player, the other, a talented, athletic freak playing backyard football.

From what I saw, they didn't handle losing very well, losing their cool, getting flagged for personal fouls, acting like dumb asses. They looked soft, got punched in the face, and collapsed. Bucs could've put a forty burger on those chumps but smartly decided to play conservative after Lenny's TD.

To the OP's question: Who GAF. I hope they implode from here on. Any team with that scumbag Tyreek on their roster deserves to lose every time. F*ck the Chiefs and their incestuous pig fans.
 

Triumph

Hall of Fame Poster
At this pace, Mahomes will continue to get injured. Knee last season and concussion and toe this year.

They let everyone know that Mahomes is having toe surgery tomorrow.
 

RobertWeathers

Author of the Port Huron Statement
At this pace, Mahomes will continue to get injured. Knee last season and concussion and toe this year.

They let everyone know that Mahomes is having toe surgery tomorrow.
After all, it was his ailing toe that severely hampered his play.

Everyone needs to know that.
 

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