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    No argument here. I agree that CTE is damaging. We can agree someone or entity needs to step into his world and demand that he seeks help. Unfortunately I think he surrounds himself with takers and does not have family per se. He is in a bad way
     
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    ......or the enablers who kept pushing the circus act without seeing what was patently obvious.

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    Judy Battista put it perfectly back on September 20, the day the Patriots released Brown.

    I remember posting this tweet at that time, and it still rings true today.

     
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    That being said, after watching the extended almost 20 minute version, hats off to Officer Sola-Vega. That guy deserves a bonus.

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    There were enablers around him and enablers from afar. Lots of viewers loved watching the Anna Nicole show while not giving a carp that the protagonist was clearly rotting from inside each episode.
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    Or a husband
     
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    Possible? Maybe.
    Likely? Not so much
     
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    No.
     
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    The thing I can’t get over is the bubble people live in, thinking AB is some kind of outlier when it comes to athletes. My bet is that most of these guys are a lot closer to AB than you think. The guy has always been the same and the only difference is now people are watching him off the field. You think he’s not like many prima dona, spoilt as sht superstar players? Two years ago he had constructed an image of a fun-loving, good guy team player who just wants to win games. And we’d still think that’s who he is if that spat between him and Roethlisberger hadn’t happened. Just think about that for a minute.
     
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    1A. Is he crazy? (IDGAF)
    YES - Can he catch the ball?
    NO - Can he catch the ball?

    1B. Can he catch the ball at a pro ball level?
    YES - sign him up
    NO - don't touch him
     
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    Need a ruling from the forum whether the stands are considered the field of play, because that is where he will be "catching balls" for the forseeable future. Do you really think he won't be put on the exempt list after this latest meltdown? Heck, based on that video I would be very surprised if he passed a drug test.
     
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    He doesn't do drugs. He's on a natural high.
     
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    It would seem that we could have kept him inactive and traded him to an NFC team for whatever we could get, with everyone understanding that he would likely get a long suspension. Even if we got a 7th, we would have saved 2020 cap money.
     
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    Only thing in this whole thread that makes sense!!!
     
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    From the article that went back to his childhood, HS and college , where they interviewed former coaches, etc. it seems he may have always suffered from some type of mood disorder (M-D, bipolar, anxiety). He needs medication, probably knows it and refuses to take it.

    I have no idea if he has CTE or if this has made things worse. I think that his condition can be controlled if he wants it.

    He's got raw talent that from all indications seems to keep him more focused than anything else because he loves playing football and is a hard worker. He belongs on the field not sitting around bored going crazy over stupid crap. NFL doing him a disservice by blackballing him. But then again they've never cared about the players anyway.
     
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    The scorecard for this post, sentence-by-sentence is:

    -What?
    -No
    -No
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    -THREE years ago he was livestreaming his lockerroom after a playoff game while teammates were undressing, his head coach was warning the players to stay off social media and then cursed their next opponent during a speech he thought was private. So.....NO.
    - Are you kidding?
    -LOL

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    There are several posters talking about how Belichick recognized some guy who grew up in a bad situation or whatever. They aren't good posters so you probably just ignored them.
     
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    He was a year behind me in elementary school, so I don't really remember him except insofar as everyone knew Touchdown Eddie Brown's kid was a grade behind us. It didn't even occur to me until five years ago or so when I read Antonio Brown was Eddie's kid in some article and put two and two together. His dad coached football and substitute taught at my high school in the AFL offseason.

    He was supposedly extremely good at soccer from people I know who were a year behind me.
     
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    I don't know, I went to college with some future NFL players and remained friends with one who briefly played for the Patriots (as well as a few other teams), and most of them are just weirdos in their 20s who play video games all day and stuff. They suffer from arrested development but it's not violent or bizarre, just what you'd expect from people who are coddled their whole lives from being uber-talented. They also usually grow out of it after a few years, because playing in the NFL is a job and a particularly grueling one.

    Guys like Brown are definitely outliers, and Brown's personality seems to have changed significantly during the course of his NFL career, suggesting brain damage as a culprit rather than something buried deep in his makeup.
     
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    I really have no feelings regarding AB. Maybe a vague feeling of confusion as to why he is the way he is

    To me, he’s just another guy I don’t know. I have my own sh** to figure out so how can I care about some guy named AB?
     
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