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    DRAFT DAY DISCUSSION OFFICIAL 2021 NFL DRAFT - ROUND 1 - Discussion Thread

    This was a good pick. I have a good feeling about Mac Jones. Smart+accurate is a good combination. It's actually the most important combination.
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    Build Roster for Rookie Running QB??

    I am not a fan of dual threat QBs because most of them lack what is needed upstairs. But if you are looking for a stop gap well I guess thats ok. But you have to retool the entire offense for it. Dual threat QBs still feel like a gimmick to me. I mean you want some mobility back there but a guy...
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    Trade a 2nd For Jimmy Now; This is Not a Long Term Commitment

    Then why do the Pats need him? I can never see the logic. This guy is trash! Always injured!....how much you want for him?
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    Trade a 2nd For Jimmy Now; This is Not a Long Term Commitment

    I don't know man. He has some value to them as well. I think they will get a 1st rounder for him from someone. Half the 1st round picks are busts every year. If I needed a QB and all I had to do was pick up the phone and hand over my 1st round pick which may or may not pan out for me to acquire...
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    Kraft acknowledges drafting woes, says approach is changing

    I am not that guy. I really don't care. You are overly emotional and all infatuated with Tom Brady. And it makes you hyper aggressive and seeing sleights in the smallest things. I like Tom Brady too. I think he is the GOAT. But I can still remain rational. I really have said nothing...
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    Kraft acknowledges drafting woes, says approach is changing

    Man I knew Brady was not declining just by watching him play. And I swear you can't find a more team friendly elite QB than Tom Brady. Zero loyalty. I guess they figured it was time for him to retire. Yeah that worked out well.
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    Trade a 2nd For Jimmy Now; This is Not a Long Term Commitment

    Maybe so. But man maybe I am a weakling but I would pull the trigger on that and get Jimmy before someone else does. Like DENVER ----
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    Trade a 2nd For Jimmy Now; This is Not a Long Term Commitment

    They want a 1st rounder: https://www.nfl.com/news/49ers-asking-price-for-jimmy-garoppolo-is-first-round-pick And I'd go for it if I were the pats. Something tells me it will be a good thing. Playoffs at the very least. Pats back in the saddle. That's the idea anyways. Might be a disaster. But...
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    Trade a 2nd For Jimmy Now; This is Not a Long Term Commitment

    https://www.nfl.com/news/49ers-asking-price-for-jimmy-garoppolo-is-first-round-pick I'd go for it. I think Jimmy can get it done. I am sure many do not thinks so. But man is it tempting.
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    Kraft acknowledges drafting woes, says approach is changing

    In all fairness this will be a topic of the ages.....like in 20 years time people will still be discussing this exact thing. So I mean I guess...get used to it?
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    OT: Official 2020 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

    Certainly with the salary cap crunch not to many teams going to risk it. It's a shame AB is still top tier talent. Both he and Bell screwed themselves trying to **** over the Steelers. Such petty krap and both players paid a steep price for their antics. Bell was considered a HoF dual threat RB...
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    Kraft acknowledges drafting woes, says approach is changing

    Well its been largely argued that they had raw talent and no leadership down there not to mention no top tier QB. I mean with Winston you are only going to get so far when he chucks 30 interceptions. It is a team sport and no QB does it a lone but we all know that without a QB you really don't...
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    Kraft acknowledges drafting woes, says approach is changing

    Tend to agree for the most part. However TB gets it done in ways that are really only becoming apparent now. The fact of the matter is TB is really almost like another head coach. And one that has been playing football for 25 years. And one that has been studying the game that long. Not only...
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    Kraft acknowledges drafting woes, says approach is changing

    Na since you did not care to elaborate I will take that as a sign it's too much of an emotional topic for you. I mean what shall we say to appease you? BB is a trash head coach? I can't do that. The man is a very effective head coach and I think the entire NFL would would agree with that...
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    NEW ARTICLE: Patriots 2021 Draft Profile, QB Kyle Trask, Florida

    Trask might be good, he seems to have a good arm and is accurate. If everything upstairs works well he could easily do very well in the NFL. It's usually the stuff upstairs and that killer instinct that make a great QB. Physical stuff is usually secondary as long as some baselines are met. TB...
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    NEW ARTICLE: Are the Patriots Possibly AFC Championship Contenders? Suddenly, it's Not as Crazy as it Sounds

    Cam Newton is the limiting factor. BB got to get creative and get a QB from somewhere. Another 6th round GOAT would not hurt about now. You know every year I am sure there is some great QB that just goes unnoticed in the draft. Who knows how many of the very greats we have just let slip right...
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    Trade a 2nd For Jimmy Now; This is Not a Long Term Commitment

    Not trading 3 1s His injury prone history is what reduces his value to a 2 or 3. If they weren’t done with Jimmy they wouldn’t have traded 3 1s to replace him. If he was being paid like a backup that would make sense but at 26 million, no way But he is not going to be a backup. All signs...
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    Trade a 2nd For Jimmy Now; This is Not a Long Term Commitment

    I honestly like Minshew. He may be a bust, but there is some potential for a decent upside too. With Cam on board and if there are no other QB prospects, Minshew might not be bad to try out. If he can't hack it, keep him as a backup and go work on the QB position again for 2022.
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    Trade a 2nd For Jimmy Now; This is Not a Long Term Commitment

    But financially they were in a similar situation. It was mentioned that financially it makes no sense, but plenty of teams draft 1st round QBs with good veteran QBs on the team already. It is somewhat expensive but its better to have that continuity already in place. In other words its a good...
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    Trade a 2nd For Jimmy Now; This is Not a Long Term Commitment

    Its not unheard of. Favre/Rogers for starters. 1st round picks have sat behind good starters before. If I am the 49ers and JG is playing very good I am not sure I feel the need to start the rookie. Plus I imagine it a lot will depend on how the rookie looks in training as well. Like Mahomes...

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