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What are you talking about? He obviously would play them twice a season if the trade did happen. I'm just talking football, not everything posted on here needs to favor the Patriots, it's football talk and it is a real issue for the Saints if they did go and get him.

The mouths of the NFC South are watering right now, if Saints do go and get Butler that is some serious mismatches vs these division teams. If anyone should be going after Sherman, it should be the Saints since **** Sherman has size and won't get beat deep nearly as much as Butler. Remember...

As talented as Butler is, the fact is he is undersized and he would see Julio Jones (6'3), Mike Evans (6'5), and Kelvin Benjamin (6'5) 2 times each season if traded to New Orleans. I'm not saying he won't improve the Saints; they are so bad he most definitely will but it's something to think...

when he found out pats beat cardinals

boo hoo everyone plays with injuries

D will be really good At least he has Sammy Watkins to work with He'll figure out ways to get Spiller involved better than the staff before him He will have more freedom to do things his way He knows the AFC East

At what price?

I don't need to see them play again: "Manning now has nine "one-and-done" playoff appearances, equaling the number of AFC Championship Games for Tom Brady. No other quarterback has lost his first playoff game more than four times." That's good enough for me

Chargers are weak vs the run, I think our RBs will get a good amount of work

Yeah, I agree with all of this ... I'm just assuming we can get him for cheap, if we can't it wouldn't be a big blow. Just a random thought, I could see them bringing in Cecil Shorts for a look

5-7 targets because I'm considering drops, how can you not? Do you think Dobson is going to come in and catch every ball thrown his way? I'm judging Dobson based off what I saw last season and what I saw was a player who had a ton of potential but also dropped a good amount of passes/lined up...

I see what you're saying here but judging Dobson off the way he was used last year, you would think he requires good amount of looks and it would alter the game plan a bit (taking away from players who are having success). Tyms just seems like a guy you throw in here and there and see if he can...

I wouldn't hit my kids to begin with, I never once said I would, I would use other ways of discipline. My parents have been hit before with a switch, I have been hit before with a switch, my GF has been hit before with a switch, and I know many people who have been hit before with a switch...

Tyms doesn't see the field much, does anyone know the exact amount of plays where Tyms was on the field vs Indy and Detroit? It's probably a pretty low number, so if that is the case then why even bother having Tyms on the roster? If they want to see Dobson do the same exact thing Tyms does...

A lot of people act as if Peterson does this on the daily, he disciplined his kid and went overboard a bit, I even said he shouldn't of hit him that hard. But to label him a "child abuser" is a bit dramatic if you ask me.

Right ... and how many of those kids were abused because their parents were actually child abusers and not parents who once in the blue moon took a switch to their kid for discipline reasons?

He took a switch to his kid because he was acting out and cursing at his siblings (and probably a lot more too). You act as if this has never been done before. Should he have been a little lighter on the hits? Sure, but it's not like there were waterfalls of blood flowing. Ray Rice knocked...

You do realize Dobson "contributing" means he needs to get 5-7 targets to be effective, and that means people who actually ARE performing will lose looks. It's a lot easier to recover from Tyms dropping 1 deep ball then forcing balls to Dobson to get him into a rhythm. But sure, if that's...

Really? I know plenty of people who were physically disciplined growing up and they turned out just fine.

Except Tyms isn't used the same way Dobson is One dimensional? That's why he was brought in, to out run the other D and catch bombs. Tyms doesn't even have close to as much time in this system as Dobson does, it's easy to pick out Tyms miscues because he has such a small sample size. Do you...