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Well, that was coaching, veteran players, and free agent additions. We're talking about the draftees and their lack of impact relative to other teams.

I do see your point. But you'd think they'd be able to draft more than 1 pro bowl player even just on the initial ballot over the course of 7 seasons.

Pioli left at the end of 2008. Reese covered 2009 through 2012. Since 2013, the Pats have drafted 1 pro bowler. Coincidence? Or is Caserio really that bad?

Except that Tom chose to leave. So did Gronk. So I'd say the "big dogs" disagree.

It was interesting to read the quote about how much the Pats use stats in their personnel decisions, not just how much but the manner in which they do it. Its something that has increased over time. One of the interesting points from MoneyBall was how effective the strategy is during a long...

Lots of good free agent WR have come here and flopped, so why not expect it from a rookie? In New England, all the traditional traits of a good WR are irrelevant. The only thing that matters is whether or not you look at a defense and see the exact same thing as Tom Brady. If you do, you get...

This isn't college, with fight songs and such. Its a professional game, and the fans owe the team nothing. Its the players and ownership that owe the fans, cause its the fans money that pays their ridiculously high salaries.

Once you filter out all the attitude in this post...there's a lot of truth in it.

Your question is spot on, hardly novice level. But, unfortunately, there is not a single poster on this thread that can provide an explanation that makes the Patriots decision-making appear logical. Many feel that BB has royally messed up. The kool-aid drinkers can't explain it either, but...

One of many. But IMO, the key failure of this season hasn't been: -- the draft (though...2 running backs? a broken CB?, no pass rushers again?) -- or the head-scratching cuts that followed (Sanders, Meri, Bodden, etc.) -- or the bone-headed insistence on trying to jam the proverbial...

I thought Pepper Johnson's comments were enlightening, in regards to the defense surpassing the coaches' expectations a little bit at this point in the season. At first, I thought it was a BS statement but then I wondered if he really meant it. If so, the coaches' expectations for the Defense...

It amuses me when people treat football like its rocket science, or brain surgery, or fighting a 2-front war while your economy is in the toilet. Its freaking football. With the exception of the kool-aid drinkers, the people on this board are smart, can read statistics & analyze trends...

No exploitable weaknesses? I wish you'd mentioned that to Rex Ryan last December.

Umm...they're running a vanilla defense, from a standard 1-gap 4-3 formation that most of these guys have played within since high school. We're not talking about the crazy schemes from the days of 03 and 04. You've heard it from their own mouths..."my job is just to kill the QB" and stuff...

I'm looking at the roster and I just don't see where the improvement on Defense is going to come from. When we lost 31-3 after dumping Milloy, you could see the talent on the team - you knew it was just a matter of time. What exactly do we have now that gives you any hope? Safety: Barrett...

Connolly stepped into the position seamlessly. I expected some kind of confusion, or at least a change in the game plan. But the transition was perfect. So I think you overestimate Koppen's worth. That being said, I agree that wouldn't just dump him (until a suitable replacement was found).

Gruden mentioned that McCourty seems to have trouble with the larger WR types, and he mentioned Calvin Johnson and Marshall. Of course, I can't be overly concerned about a CB having trouble playing man coverage against either of those guys. Any CB playing in that heat for 4 quarters against...

I'm sure I missed this and its old news, but I was surprised last night to hear Scott Zolak say that Mallett was the top QB on the Pats' draft board. How incredible is it that the guy the Pats had as the best QB lasted deep into the 3rd? I mean, seriously, if you're one of the QB-needy teams...

In the past BB drafts, the patriots were the dominant team in the NFL. They rarely had more than two big holes to fill at any given time, so it was easy to focus upon need and then argue about a couple elite players that projected to be drafted around the Pat's draft slot. Now, there is...

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