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    12 Men on the Field on the 1st Hail Mary - Needs to be addressed

    Flops are another thing altogether. And there were some horrible non-flop calls this year. But guys in the NFL are just catching up to what NBA players have been doing for years. Anyone remember Dennis Rodman? He was the original King of the Floppers. To stop flops, the NFL would have to...
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    For those thinking it was Brady's fault and that Eli is more "clutch"

    I don't think there's any need to compare Brady to Eli. Both are clutch. But right now, over the last 5-6 years or so, Eli has been clutch when it really counts. I'd say he's the "King of Clutch" right now in the NFL. Sort of amazing to think that early in his career Eli Manning was being...
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    12 Men on the Field on the 1st Hail Mary - Needs to be addressed

    Well, now that the weakness has been exposed, the NFL Rules Committee will have to come up with some iron-clad that's totally unambiguous. If they make the penalty severe enough for the D, 12 men on the field will only happen by accident, and if it does, it shouldn't cost the Offense *any*...
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    12 Men on the Field on the 1st Hail Mary - Needs to be addressed

    Sure. But let's say there were 15 second left and they had 12 guys on D. So the Pats get a 5 yard penalty and replay the down. But now there are only 10 seconds. Do it again. Now there are only 5 seconds. And then no seconds. But each time, you've messed up the play by having 12 guys (or...
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    12 Men on the Field on the 1st Hail Mary - Needs to be addressed

    I think the penalty against the defense needs to be more punitive than that. Otherwise, teams might still put 12 guys back there hoping to tire out the WR's and TE's or maybe get someone injured.
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    12 Men on the Field on the 1st Hail Mary - Needs to be addressed

    That was the infamous "Holy Roller" play. Oakland vs. San Diego with Ken Stabler, Fred Biletnikoff , Dave Casper, and about half of the rest of the Raider team. The famous Holy Roller game (Raiders at Chargers - 1978 season) - YouTube My friends and I used to re-create that play when we played...
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    12 Men on the Field on the 1st Hail Mary - Needs to be addressed

    The solution is to put EXTRA TIME BACK ON THE CLOCK if the defense has too many men on the field inside of 2 minutes. Maybe 8 to 10 seconds minimum, or more if the play took longer than that to develop.
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    12 Men on the Field on the 1st Hail Mary - Needs to be addressed

    My teenage son picked up on this, too. The NFL needs to address this big time. He said: "Hey, Dad! They had 12 guys on the field but the Pats still lost 5 seconds! So every defensive team should just have 12 or 13 guys on the field for every Hail Mary play until the clock runs out!" Smart kid...
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    Anyone else mourning the blu ray?

    You know, the NFL should have another series, featuring teams that made it to the Big Dance, and then lost. In many respects, that would be just as interesting as featuring the winning teams. Then, spend about 3-4 minutes showing what happened to the team the *following* season: implosion...
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    Thanks for an exciting Super Bowl

    I actually felt sorry for Patriots fans after that crushing defeat to Chicago. The only thing that went wrong in that game is that Ditka inexplicably forget to let Sweetness score a TD. Otherwise, the Patriots were humiliated on national television. A few years later, I got to experience that...
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    Anyone else mourning the blu ray?

    So you're saying that a Blu-Ray version of the season won't be released just because they lost in SB? That doesn't make much business sense. Call me "Old School", but I bet lots of people would buy the disc regardless of the outcome of the Big Dance. It was a great game, and the Pats had a...
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    Thanks for an exciting Super Bowl

    One of my favorite "Old School" scenes from the Denver-NE rivalry was when Shannon Sharpe was "calling in the National Guard becase Denver is killin' the Patriots"! Man, those were the days. :D WE ARE "KILLING THE PATRIOTS!" - YouTube Times have changed; lately, the Patriots have been killing...
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    Thanks for an exciting Super Bowl

    Poor Buffalo indeed. But how many of those games were blowouts? IIRC all of NE's wins *and* losses in the BB era have been by 3 or 4 points (or something close to that). So most "New School" New England fans have never tasted the bitter disappointment of a blowout. Be happy that your team...
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    Opening Safety nets a Vegas Sportsbook bettor $15,000 for $200 Wager

    Yep. Bottom line: "Don't compete with da house! Da house will always win in da end!"
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    Thanks for an exciting Super Bowl

    I can only guess that you are too young to have experienced a blowout first hand. As an "Old School" Broncos fan, I have experienced several of them. Trust me, the pain of a blowout lingers for decades. The sting of a close loss fades very quickly. In my book, there are 2 kinds of games: games...
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    The Post game venting thread.(merged a lot)

    Boy, I see a lot of people making mountains out of mole hills. The Patriots have already established themselves as a dynasty. Since doing that, they've returned to the Big Dance TWICE! Both games were thrilling Super Bowls that may not have gone the Pat's way...but they were thrilling...
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    Why we can't beat the Giants..... simple.

    Look, the Patriots are a passing team. You're re-writing the book on passing. You guys have 4 and 5 receiver sets, sometimes with 2 Tight Ends, and your TE's are just big receivers like Shannon Sharpe. BB thinks pass first...and pass second. So, it's not surprising that with the game on the...
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    Thanks for an exciting Super Bowl

    Hey, it HURTS to lose! Tell me about it. After Brady dissected Denver a few weeks ago, I went into a funk and haven't come back to this site until today. I wasn't trying to hide, but it just hurt too much. We all want our teams to win, but nothing -- I REPEAT: NOTHING -- is worse than a...
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    Thanks for an exciting Super Bowl

    Hey Patriots fans, I know the game didn't turn out the way you wanted, but you've gotta admit that this was an epic game for the ages. What an awesome game! It had everything: A rare safety to start the game Domination by the Giants followed by domination by the Pats A one-point game at...
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    The official Patriots vs Bronco's playoff game thread

    I see that BB is wearing his cotton Armani suit. Lookin' good! :rocker:

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