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Not saying your argument doesn't have merit but the insults don't help your arguments and actually hurt them trying to make your point.

You make some good arguments why do you have to throw an insult at the end of your posts? Just keep it to an intelligent back and forth.

You mean ge took "it" out.

My school years, 16 of them went by so slowly, I couldn't wait to graduate and find a career, not it's going by lightning fast and I'm almost retirement age, well I am but not FRA.

What's funny reading this thread is you guys agree on 90% of what each is saying and arguing over the small 10%. Youn guys make it interesting around here.

I've said it a few times before this is going to be the most anticipated draft for Pats fans in a long time. Thank God it's next week so we can go from guessing to criticizing who they picked.

Didn't it used to be earlier or am I misremembering?

There can't be more than one good QB in a draft? You could get a great QB in the second round but by your logic who wants a QB who 32 teams passed on. Also the QB picked 4th could be better than QBs picked 1-2 or 3. I don't get the logic unless you want to wait for a great QB to be available...

I used to work with a guy who left for a lunch break, he comes back an hour later and said to me "don't you hate when you get a manicure, and it gets ruined right away" I said I've never had a manicure. Apparently when he got out of the nail salon an old lady's car got stuck in the snow and he...

Not saying that, saying once Tom got there the players that came on board made the team better team than the year before. They were a good team with a terrible QB but the additions made them a super bowl team along with Tom at QB.

Let's hear more about that. Might as well add another rumor to the mill.

They also had Terry O to step in and take the penalty for anyone who tried.

We all want that, but those guys don't grow on trees. It'll be great if we can find someone like that, somewhere, anywhere maybe this draft.

Will you stop with your intelligent, well thought out rational responses. they don't belong here. :p

I'm not sure where they're coming from either, Curran's on record saying he offered Tom 15 mill.

The team that ended the year before TB arrived was not the same as when TB played his first game for Tampa. There were a few very good players on the team once Tom got there.

They could also take a shot at another QB in the later rounds and you never know who could emerge as the better QB.

I don't think it will be that bad, ownership was a mess back then.

I didn't like it either but in the back of my mind I think maybe there was a reasonable explanation that makes sense, sadly we'll probably never know.

Probably because TB and BB are gone and the teams not good. I love watching football, always have since I was a kid and it never mattered whether they were great, good or bad. I just like to watch.