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    OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

    If you didn't care you would ignore this thread, if you didn't care you certainly wouldn't be posting in this thread. You are like a guy who gets dumped, and constantly looks at his exes FB account and claim you don't care. You care so much it's kind of sad lol
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    OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

    Then why come on this thread? Because you care, you care and it kills you that you care
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    OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

    It's probably an awkward situation right now for the 49ers. They gave up 3 1st Rd picks to get Lance. I imagine the worst scenario for Lynch is that they already had their starting QB but instead of giving the team better players to make a Superbowl run, they instead squandered it on a backup...
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    OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

    So are you saying Bill is a terrible GM for giving Brady such terrible weapons throughout his career?
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    OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

    It's not dumb, it's true. He was losing with Bledsoe, Kraft's golden child. Do you really think Kraft would have picked Bill over Bledsoe when Bledsoe was a year away from being in the playoffs before Bill showed up? Brady was taken in the 6th Rd. It's impossible to know if he would have been...
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    OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

    No one has ever said Bill and Brady were not instrumental. You keep talking from a tone that Bill would still have won 6 Superbowls with Damon Huard at QB. Bill got Lucky that he got Brady, because no way another star QB puts up with him for as long as Brady did. Manning would have had Bill...
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    OT: Cam Newton entrance yesterday

    I thought OT threads about former Patriots QBs weren't allowed. Standards you should be followed so this thread should get tossed
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    OT: Mess in Chicago

    Players always have leverage. La'el Collins, Oline of the Cowboys was a first Rd prospect that had accusations dropped on him the day before the draft which brought his value down to a mid Rd pick. He made it publicly known that if any team drafted him he would refuse to ever play for them and...
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    Belichick's record without Brady since the Brady era began

    Yeah I was commenting on the fact that the 08 defense was still loaded with talent. Still had Vrabel, Seau, Rodney, Richard Seymour in his prime, Wilfork, ROTY Jerod Mayo, a still motivated Addalius Thomas, Ty Warren, Meriwether and James Sanders to rotate between Rodney. The 08 defense was...
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    Belichick's record without Brady since the Brady era began

    Belichick didn't have the first pick in the draft so we will never know who he would have drafted from the QBs in this past class. If Mac was always his guy then he made a huge mistake not trading up to secure Mac. You don't leave the most critical position up to chance unless you have...
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    Belichick's record without Brady since the Brady era began

    I'm not saying they win the Superbowl in 08, a lot of stuff has to go right to win. The 07 Pats only lost because a lot of things went right for the Giants. (Injuries to Faulk and Neal, Helmet catch, 2 dropped Ints, failed fumble recovery, in the grasp sack and blatant holding on helmet catch...
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    Belichick's record without Brady since the Brady era began

    The only time I've been to a live game in Gillette was the Steelers vs the Matt Cassell led Patriots. It was a messy game due to the freezing sleet rain. With Brady in 08 that team at worst guess 14-2. That game against the Steelers would have been won with Brady. Cassell played like an Ave...
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    Belichick's record without Brady since the Brady era began

    I don't think John Harbaugh is anywhere near their level, but he is still a really good HC because he is able to change schemes and systems to match his players. Jim Harbaugh did the same thing going from Alex Smith to Collin Kaepernick. Look at how much KCs offense changed under Reid when it...
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    Belichick's record without Brady since the Brady era began

    It's not BS. Great coaches tweak and revamp to match their players. Look at Jim Harbaugh. He built a playoff juggernaut that knocked the Pats out of the playoffs with Joe Flacco as his QB. He didn't look for a Joe Flacco clone in the draft. He got a QB with potential then built an entire...
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    Belichick's record without Brady since the Brady era began

    Dude just stop Great coaches don't try and fit players into a "system". They build a system around the players they have That's why Bill is great. He has changed the def and off around through out the years to match his players. The clock killing Corey Dillon offense only existed when...
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    OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

    This is the Bucs we are talking about. This time next week we will learn his leg is infact amputated
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    Why do people say Mac Jones has a weak arm?

    No coach worth their contract will ever force a QB into their perceived "system". Good coaches always tweak their offense to match the QB. Look at what John Harbaugh did with going from Joe Flacco to Lamar Jackson? Or Sean Payton to Drew Brees, to Winston. Belichick changed it from Jimmy G to...
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    Why do people say Mac Jones has a weak arm?

    People always get bent out of shape. Weak compared to some random guy that has never played football? Hell no Weak compared to Mahomes who can flip his wrist and the ball flies 60 yards on a dime? Kind of. Ave is a better way of putting it. Great arm strength as compared to Ave arm strength...
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    OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

    Both Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh are good coaches. Tomlin has never had a losing season. Going 8-8 is his worse. He also has played in a division against the Ravens, John Harbaugh, who are always difficult. Pete Carroll is also a winning coach. He did better in NE with Bledsoe at QB than...

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