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    OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

    When I look at it like this, it makes me respect Manning a little more. Brady's 3 losses to him were with outgunned teams each time, including the ******** 2006 AFC Championship Game, but at the end of the day they're still wins. Brady's 11 playoff losses Peyton Manning - 3 Eli Manning - 2 Joe...
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    OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

    Nice of EA to put them on the cover of Madden 22 after Mahomes got his ass kicked by 22 in the big game.
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    OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

    On his way to that Elway/Manning career Super Bowl stat line.
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    All-Time QB Rankings / QB Hall of Fame Monitor

    I also haven't taken a look at the stats on this, but I wonder if the Packers preferred to hand the ball off at the goal line more than the average team? Could Starr have had a few 20+ TD seasons? I think back to seasons like 2012 and 2016 with Brady where it seemed he had 5-10 touchdowns taken...
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    All-Time QB Rankings / QB Hall of Fame Monitor

    Great stuff. It seems most people always call Starr a game manager, beneficiary of his running game, and carried by his coach. I wonder where we've heard all of that before? When Starr and the Packers won three straight championships, here's where they ranked in Rushing Y/A 1965: 11/14 1966...
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    OT: Mahomes says he is eyeing a 20-0 season

    The 2007 Patriots are as dominant of a team as you’re ever going to see in the salary cap era and they still had 4 close games including escaping by the skin of their teeth against the Ravens. Good luck.
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    All-Time QB Rankings / QB Hall of Fame Monitor

    I find the below the most interesting when it comes to looking at the greatest quarterbacks. All three pairings had their careers overlap almost perfectly Baugh vs Luckman Starr vs Unitas Elway vs Marino Reading around various forums it seems that Luckman and Starr are seldom mentioned...
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    OT: Mahomes says he is eyeing a 20-0 season

    This + Light, Mankins, and Kaczur deciding to masquerade as turnstiles. I don’t even remember at this point if Koppen and Hochstein **** the bed either. The other three getting destroyed by the defensive line is seared into my memory.
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    OT: Official 2020 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

    Super Bowl 49 at #6...
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    Pedro Martinez throwing Brady batting practice back in 2015

    It’s not even fair for a pitcher to have 3 A+ pitches like he did. Greatest changeup ever.
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    OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

    Brady playing five more years confirmed.
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    Pedro Martinez throwing Brady batting practice back in 2015

    No doubt in my mind 1999-2000 Pedro is the greatest pitcher ever. I don’t think we’ll ever see the kind of dominance he showed those two seasons in our lifetime again.
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    All-Time QB Rankings / QB Hall of Fame Monitor

    Wow, what a find. I really enjoyed reading that. I have him at 4 right now but could see myself placing him anywhere from 4-8.
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    All-Time QB Rankings / QB Hall of Fame Monitor

    Great read. Makes me wonder if I have Brocklin too low on my 1.0 list? I have him #18 and you have him #11. The 1950 Rams still hold the record for PPG and that was with Brocklin attempting 223 passes and Waterfield attempting 213. Each started 6 games. Talk about being split evenly.
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    OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/05/13/tom-brady-struggled-to-learn-the-bucs-playbook-last-season/ 4,633 yards, 40 touchdown passes, and a Super Bowl win with no preseason or game experience, and learning the playbook on the fly
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    All-Time QB Rankings / QB Hall of Fame Monitor

    Completely agree. With the top 10 you can say every single one of them were the best of their era or could be argued best of their era except Manning, but I’ll allow a little leeway considering who the other guy in his era is. I also understand if someone puts Young over Manning. I have Manning...
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    All-Time QB Rankings / QB Hall of Fame Monitor

    Yeah I’m just really weird about having a correct win/loss record so I’ll admit that’s the reason a few guys were left out. I switched Luckman’s spot on the list a lot. He went anywhere from 5-10. Like you said, he may have been greater than Baugh. Maybe I’m giving him the short end of the...
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    All-Time QB Rankings / QB Hall of Fame Monitor

    So I'll call both of these lists 1.0 because I can definitely see myself changing a few spots in the future. My criteria isn't fully finished yet either. Who knows, I may post in here a month from now with a different list. On the all-time list I'm not going to include the following: Arnie...
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    OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

    I saw the second game is December 19th SNF in Tampa.
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    Brady Returns to Foxboro on Sunday Night, October 3

    Buccaneers had the #1 ranked run defense the last two seasons and the gap between them and #2 each year was sizable. Newton will need to win the game with his arm because the Patriots aren’t going to show up and run all over them like some people think.

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