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    Brady vs. Bill, Perspective of a non-Pats Fan

    The civil replies are much appreciated. I was worried I'd be crucified! :rofl: It's true that it will probably take a few more years to have a more clear answer, but I don't think the issue is all or nothing one way or the other. As if one guy carried the other. I think it's more of an issue of...
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    Brady vs. Bill, Perspective of a non-Pats Fan

    Hi all. :thumbsup: Brady vs. Bill seems to be a controversial topic here. Some insist it is a "thing," while others say it shouldn't even be discussed because nobody is even looking at things that way. As an out-of-towner non-Pats fan, I can say that it definitely is a thing. I and many others...
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    Now we FINALLY get to see who's better - Ben or Brady

    Of course I expected some friendly fire after last night's hard fought loss. But let it be known that this game was much closer than the final score indicated. A play here, a bounce there, and we're looking at a different outcome with flipped stats for the two mega-star quarterbacks. Yes...
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    Now we FINALLY get to see who's better - Ben or Brady

    Thank you for the welcome. :) But I am standing by my score and stats predictions. 24 hours from now we can analyze and critique, and see how accurate the predictions were. I wouldn't bet against the ollll' Gatekeeper. :cool:
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    Now we FINALLY get to see who's better - Ben or Brady

    Well I appreciate it, but there are certainly many points to ponder regarding Ben being the better all around QB. For instance, he is definitely harder to bring down, and far better at making plays with his legs. These are two crucial elements when evaluating a QB's talents.
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    Now we FINALLY get to see who's better - Ben or Brady

    It is nice to see a perceptive Pats fan who sees the undervalue of Brother Ben. However, regardless of what the stats and accomplishments say at this particular juncture, the final chapter of this story is not yet written! A long way to go in this tale of two legends.
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    Now we FINALLY get to see who's better - Ben or Brady

    No, it wasn't that harsh. I just think it's exciting and worthwhile to keep the comparison going between the two best quarterbacks of the 2000's era!
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    Now we FINALLY get to see who's better - Ben or Brady

    How so? I am always complimentary of Tom 12 and company, but am also inclined to offer noteworthy facts showing that Ben 7 is certainly a viable competitor of Tom 12. Tom 12 has said so himself. When it's all said and done, it will be interesting to see who history declares as the better...
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    Now we FINALLY get to see who's better - Ben or Brady

    I challenge you to find one SB winning drive of Tom's that matches the impressiveness of Ben's SB winning drive against Arizona, capped off by the greatest clutch throw in NFL history. I'm not saying Ben is better than Tom, of course, but after all these years, this is STILL a noteworthy battle.
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    Now we FINALLY get to see who's better - Ben or Brady

    One nice offensive season in no way catapults someone beyond the resume of accomplishments of #7.
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    Now we FINALLY get to see who's better - Ben or Brady

    Hi all :) First, congratulations on your new signing. I'm a bit surprised Father Belichick was eager to take on the headache, but we'll see how all of that plays out in due time. As a respected, long-time contributor to these forums for over a decade, I feel now is a perfect time to resurrect...
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    Brady vs. Ben - Legendary Rivalry Resumes

    Certainly no sarcasm at all! This season's stat lines are very telling. Ben likely has 5+ productive seasons left. Tom, as great as he has been, may have hit the wall. Of course his end has been declared before and he's proven people wrong, and he may do so again. But it is possible that he goes...
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    Brady vs. Ben - Legendary Rivalry Resumes

    Yet another epic clash between these two all-time top 15 quarterbacks is just days away. This week, Big Ben took part in what could be considered trash talk against his counterpart, when he boldly declared that he looked forward to outplaying Tom. “Man, any time you can share the field with...
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    Big Ben Implies Pats Will Lose to Titans?

    Ben Roethlisberger has obviously alluded to retirement as a possibility at the end of the season, as he did after last season. However, when asked today if he thinks Sunday's game against the Jags will be his last at Heinz Field, he said that he does not think so. Ben Roethlisberger doesn’t...
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    Pittsburgh Troll Agrees With Overturning the TD

    Also, next week could be the classic "trap" or let-down game for the Pats. I know BB is good at guarding against such things, but it does happen.
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    Pittsburgh Troll Agrees With Overturning the TD

    I refuse to equal your level of confidence with pessimism! The Steelers have about a month to figure out how to reverse this "curse." They showed they can rattle Brady a bit and get him to make mistakes, and showed they can move the ball against the Pats and score. I'd say a rematch is by no...
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    Pittsburgh Troll Agrees With Overturning the TD

    Well, at the very least, there is probably going to have to be some kind of modification or refinement to the rule, if not an outright change. Ambiguous terminology such as "football move" and "surviving the ground" just doesn't cut it. And the gray area is even more blurry with such ideas as...
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    Pittsburgh Troll Agrees With Overturning the TD

    Well, again, I'm isolating it to only the guys available entering the game itself. Meaning I'm not factoring in the absence of Shazier, Haden, Hogan, etc. I don't think you will find even one semi-knowledgeable football fan who would not say that AB adds a whole different game-changing dynamic...
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    Pittsburgh Troll Agrees With Overturning the TD

    Well, I believe they actually held an 11 point lead for awhile in the 4th, but your overall point is valid. This is just the kind of thing that happens between these two teams. NE is just destined to prevail. It is correct that each game is its own entity, but I'm a firm believer in "higher...
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    Pittsburgh Troll Agrees With Overturning the TD

    The more I ponder on it, and after seeing the replay about 100 times now, I think I've changed my position. Was it the right call? Probably. But the call on the field was TD. Was there undisputable evidence that the meat of the ball hit the ground? I say no. Yes, the ball moved, but it's...

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