Weather equalizer Monday night(merged X 2)?

The Baltimore forecast is no precipitation but winds 25-30 mph.

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If it's windy at field level, then I'd say this will have an effect on the deep ball, fg's and kick offs.
We may get to see more from our rushing attack.

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chrisfx811 said:

If it's windy at field level, then I'd say this will have an effect on the deep ball, fg's and kick offs.
We may get to see more from our rushing attack.

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Winds during the day up to 25 and at night winds die down to 10-15 according to the Weather Channel.

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You're right. Whatever shot the Ravens had at having an offense just evaporated.

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wes welker time and maybe maroney.

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Interestingly, Boller has thrown 34% of his passes beyond 10 yards (length of throw not the end result) whereas Brady has throw 25%. We have an exquisite short game with Moss, Welker, Watson, Gaffney, Faulk.

Of Moss' 71 catches, only 10 were thrown longer than 20 yards. Only 8 of Welker's 81 were thrown longer than 10 yards. Only 3 of Stallworth's 37 were thrown beyond 20 yards.

We go downfield a decent amount but it's short passes and great YAC that really keep the engine ticking - that's how Brady is completing 72.4% of his passes.

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Our deep threat sets up our short game. 25+ MPH winds are NOT good for us against a team with a strong front 7.

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FrontSeven said:

You're right. Whatever shot the Ravens had at having an offense just evaporated.

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Aren't they a running team? I wouldn't be surprised if we see a 4-3 defense this game with Colvin out.

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Its time for winter football,outdoors style,I would be surprised if BB isnt ready for this...

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PatsWickedPissah said:

Our deep threat sets up our short game. 25+ MPH winds are NOT good for us against a team with a strong front 7.

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It's largely irrelevant to me. We're better downfield but who do you want throwing quick, short passes ? Boller or Brady. Whichever type of game we need to play Brady is better at every type of throw.

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M&T Bank Stadium is built in a complete bowl with high walls encircling the field and no open areas at field level. While not completely impervious to wind, it won't be a factor unless it's really howling. This might discourage long field goal attempts, but I believe it will not impact the passing game. Here's a quote describing the situation at the stadium:

"According to the Elias Sports Bureau, among current N.F.L. stadiums, the highest field-goal percentage since 2000 is at Ford Field (87.4) in Detroit, then the Louisiana Superdome (87.1) in New Orleans and the Edward Jones Dome (85.7) in St. Louis - all climate-controlled paradises. The highest percentage at an open-air stadium since 2000 is at M&T Bank Stadium, the home of the Baltimore Ravens (fourth over all at 84.6 percent), which benefits from a relatively temperate climate."

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PatsWickedPissah said:

Our deep threat sets up our short game. 25+ MPH winds are NOT good for us against a team with a strong front 7.

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NE is 11th in the league at offensive ypc. They are first in the league at run offense according to footballoutsiders.

Baltimore is 19th in the league at ypc and are 28th in footballoutsides' rush offense ranking.

Even if passing became completely impossible NE is still better offensively.

I will gladly eat crow if this game is tougher than I think, but everything points towards a game that NE has control over the final 30 minutes.

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we're driving up for the game, so the weather being an equalizer will definitely apply if I join my wife in whining like a little beeeyotch at how cold it is.

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PatsFanInVa said:

we're driving up for the game, so the weather being an equalizer will definitely apply if I join my wife in whining like a little beeeyotch at how cold it is.

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Just be sure to whine in the direction the Pats are moving.

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I'll only audibly whine when we're on defense... you know, crowd noise and all that.

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Oswlek said:

NE is 11th in the league at offensive ypc. They are first in the league at run offense according to footballoutsiders.

Baltimore is 19th in the league at ypc and are 28th in footballoutsides' rush offense ranking.

Even if passing became completely impossible NE is still better offensively.

I will gladly eat crow if this game is tougher than I think, but everything points towards a game that NE has control over the final 30 minutes.

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Interesting, so the possibility that the deep threat has something to do with seting up the run or the short passing game doesn't resonate with you?

I do not doubt that NE will be in control of this game because Baltimore is bereft of an offense. Should I be wrong and this prove not to be so, our D will be a serious liability in January.

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i doubt we will be able to run much on the ravens. short passing game is the recipe for the day.

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: "According to the Elias Sports Bureau, among current N.F.L. stadiums, the highest field-goal percentage since 2000 is at Ford Field (87.4) in Detroit, then the Louisiana Superdome (87.1) in New Orleans and the Edward Jones Dome (85.7) in St. Louis - all climate-controlled paradises. The highest percentage at an open-air stadium since 2000 is at M&T Bank Stadium, the home of the Baltimore Ravens (fourth over all at 84.6 percent), which benefits from a relatively temperate climate."


That may be true but it's also an example of how stats can be misused and skewed easily. Half of all the FG attempts were made by the home team kicker ( Matt Stover) a guy who is extremely accurate. He's not been below 85% since 2001 so an accurate home team kicker can increase the successful percentages and is more a reflection of the teams kicking game, in this case, very good, versus the park itself......
The same logic explains Ford field with Jason Hanson being accurate and affecting the numbers....

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chrisfx811 said:

If it's windy at field level, then I'd say this will have an effect on the deep ball, fg's ....

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looks like a shutout for baltimore.

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Patsfanin Philly said:

That may be true but it's also an example of how stats can be misused and skewed easily. Half of all the FG attempts were made by the home team kicker ( Matt Stover) a guy who is extremely accurate. He's not been below 85% since 2001 so an accurate home team kicker can increase the successful percentages and is more a reflection of the teams kicking game, in this case, very good, versus the park itself......
The same logic explains Ford field with Jason Hanson being accurate and affecting the numbers....

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Good point, but let's not get too fine. Remember that Heinz field is notoriously bad for field goals, and yet, Jeff Reed is a good kicker. The problem is that he's never kicked one more than 50 yards. So, my point was that when the field goal percentage at a particular stadium is good, it has to do with a combination of a good kicker, a decent field surface, and a field that is impervious to high wind conditions. M&T Bank Stadium has all of these. Heinz Field has only Reed. Since field goal kicks travel at a higher altitude than passes, any field with wind conditions that impact the passing game will tend to have a lower field goal success rate. There will not be a problem with passing due to high winds in the M&T Bank Stadium area on Monday night.