NFL Training Camp(s) (non-Pats)

Patsgofor4 said:

The great Cole Kmet, elite Red Zone threat. He spent part of his offseason penning a new book titled “How to score zero touchdowns over 17 games at 6’6”, 260”.

Pringle is proven but he was stuck behind Hill and Kelce. Lol. Or…Pringle finally produced above-average stats in his third season, due in large part to other teams focusing on stopping Hill and Kelce, had to settle for a one-year deal with a team which was desperate for any weapons on offense and then got arrested the following month for being an immature douchebag.

Comparing Montgomery to White. LOL.

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I stated that Montgomery is a James White type RB.

Take a look numbnuts David Montgomery Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Draft, College | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Patsgofor4 said:

You’ve written so many dumb things and have stubbornly dug your heels in on so many bad takes that for many posters here you’ve reached the “It’s not worth arguing with this idiot” territory.

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Numbnuts4

venecol said:

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Eh. Let’s see him do that with pads and when defenders are allowed to rush the passer

jah said:

This is how I feel, as someone under the age of 30, when BB plays the same annoying 80s arena rock every year.

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Be careful, there are Bon Jovi fans here that will rip you a new one

Triumph said:

Yup new HC, because Nagy was terrible and held Fields back.

The Bears offense didnt score enough points. Thats why Nagy had the playcalling taken away the last 2 seasons.

Like Bourne and Henry did last season?

Everyone in Chicago is starting from square 1.

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That's why i said unknown components. We don't know how they fit with Fields/scheme.

Triumph said:

Fields has to run more or throw the ball away.

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Triumph said:

Its time.

Dont hold the ball.

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Triumph said:

Its running down the field and catching a ball.

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What? It could be a complete new scheme especially if you include a lot of QB runs and QB keep options. Jonnu Smith i think had some issues adapting our scheme in his first season here but i think his second will be better. But in your opinion it's only running down the field and throwing so Smith should be fired then at this salary, because he can't run down the field?

Triumph said:

Fields will be in his 2nd season with Montgomery, Kmet and Mooney but that only counts in NE.

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that counts everywhere but except from Mooney none of them is special.

I like Fields. Looking forward to seeing what he does with a clean slate without Nagy.

Zuma said:

Raiders training camp: Josh McDaniels harps on details; Day 7 observations

McDaniels used Thursday's practice to correct mistakes. The new Raiders coach is trying to establish discipline by penalizing errors.

theathletic.com

"Jarrett Stidham is leading the way in the backup quarterback battle. It makes sense given his familiarity with the system, but I expected Nick Mullens to be the guy there with his experience. Stidham looked poised and made a few nice throws Thursday."

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I’m gonna go ahead and disagree those who are calling the Raiders dark horses. I think McDaniels is going to crash and burn…again. There may be another player revolt for him…

Triumph said:

I stated that Montgomery is a James White type RB.

Take a look numbnuts David Montgomery Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Draft, College | Pro-Football-Reference.com


Numbnuts4

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Why, because he has above average hands and catches passes out of the backfield. Montgomery is 20 pounds heavier than White and is an inefficient runner with an aggressive, angry style who depends upon volume for his running stats. Does that sound anything like James “Sweet Feet” White? By your criteria Fournette is a James White-type back as well.

GreenCow said:

Guess it depends on what you mean by “real deal”.

Is he a good QB? Sure.

Is he an elite QB? Erghhh… Idk

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Jackson has a higher comp %, passing rating, ANY/A, AY/A, Y/A and taken less sacks than Allen with an MVP and in the MVP conversation last year. It's he's not elite Allen isn't approaching that territory either.

Stats aren't the end all but the clear up a lot when people only have an opinion based on false narratives.

Allen is a great QB but Jackson has been as good & better throughout certain stretches. And if the Ravens weren't last or bottom 5 in the league in terms of WR money I'd suspect Jackson would actually be better. I've been saying this for years now and apparently people are starting to notice too. Name me a top 10 / franchise QB with a worse group of targets around him. I'd love to see what he could do with an actual set of weapons to play with.

Again no shot at Allen. He's a monster and proved me wrong (I had a 2nd RD grade on him) Love watching him play, hate watching him as a Pats fan. Rn we're chasing you.

DaBruinz said:

Has Triump taken up the DKF mantle???

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Apparently. And with same brain capacity and skill level. At least come correct and get things right though. I get that everyone is a tough guy behind the keyboard but there's no need to make things up - another thing DKF was known for. People were PM me saying he post on different boards talking about me lol. Assuming these people are adults - imagine lying and making things up about a person you don't know on a message board lol?

I ask @Triumph who/what i was copying/pasting and he said i post other peoples video while describing what's going on lol! Response is above. Nothing wrong with that at all. Especially when its just a video and no explanation. And obviously also ignored the countless videos I made myself from A22 video.

And actually yea I do talk to some coaches and players. Anyone with a brain would do a little research before making such a silly statement. I literally used to interview prospects before coming in the league. Man imagine getting that one wrong!!!

I've spoke with guys like Trenton Cannon, Taveirre Thomas, Lanard Bonner and many others on & off the record to this day. Zach Sieler, Gabe Davis off the record. I've sure most here haven't heard of them besides Davis bc their casuals but it's actually nice to know some guys that aren't the biggest names or tied up with 15 different people before you talk to them. Those are some of the best guys to talk with bc they don't have the agendas others do. I've posted all or many of those interviews.

I'll say this though. I haven't ever seen a "good" poster come after me. It's always guys like DKF or @Triumph. No one cares what they have to say or ever asked for their opinions if we're being honest. The place has been much better without DKF and no one would notice if @Triumph never posted again. Now I just assume their fans that caught me on a bad day and want to vent. Hope you guys are feeling better

BaconGrundleCandy said:

Jackson has a higher comp %, passing rating, ANY/A, AY/A, Y/A and taken less sacks than Allen with an MVP and in the MVP conversation last year. It's he's not elite Allen isn't approaching that territory either.

Stats aren't the end all but the clear up a lot when people only have an opinion based on false narratives.

Allen is a great QB but Jackson has been as good & better throughout certain stretches. And if the Ravens weren't last or bottom 5 in the league in terms of WR money I'd suspect Jackson would actually be better. I've been saying this for years now and apparently people are starting to notice too. Name me a top 10 / franchise QB with a worse group of targets around him. I'd love to see what he could do with an actual set of weapons to play with.

Again no shot at Allen. He's a monster and proved me wrong (I had a 2nd RD grade on him) Love watching him play, hate watching him as a Pats fan. Rn we're chasing you.

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I know you love you some Lamar but he wasn’t close to “in the mvp conversation” last year.

Ring 6 said:

I know you love you some Lamar but he wasn’t close to “in the mvp conversation” last year.

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"3 reasons why Lamar Jackson deserves to be in 2021 NFL MVP talk" 3 reasons why Lamar Jackson deserves to be in 2021 NFL MVP talk


"NFL MVP watch 2021 - Ranking the top candidates and risers in a close race, including Tom Brady and Lamar Jackson" Ranking the top NFL MVP candidates: Who leads a six-quarterback, razor-thin race?

patsfanfromoversea said:

But but the Bears WR are „ good“ i was told

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Whoever made this statement should take two weeks off then quit.

captain stone said:

Allen's just another self-worshipping, entitled jumpy punk who now feels that any contact is excessive contact... He's a "star" dontcha know... Another disgusting by-product of the culture of I before Team except after C-Notes, thanks to the Pink Hats and Chicks Dig the Long Ball... "Player Safety" my ass, the ****ing Liars...

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Joker?

BaconGrundleCandy said:

"3 reasons why Lamar Jackson deserves to be in 2021 NFL MVP talk" 3 reasons why Lamar Jackson deserves to be in 2021 NFL MVP talk

2021 NFL Awards: Lamar Jackson, Kyler Murray and ... Robby Anderson take home trophies so far

MIdseason awards that definitely should not spark any controversy.

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"NFL MVP watch 2021 - Ranking the top candidates and risers in a close race, including Tom Brady and Lamar Jackson" Ranking the top NFL MVP candidates: Who leads a six-quarterback, razor-thin race?

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I meant serious discussion. The first article was after 6 games the second and 3rd after 9 when he had a 14/8 td/int that turned into 16/13
He had 1 100+ passer rating game all season

sb1 said:

Eh. Let’s see him do that with pads and when defenders are allowed to rush the passer

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HetfieldFogerty said:

I’m gonna go ahead and disagree those who are calling the Raiders dark horses. I think McDaniels is going to crash and burn…again. There may be another player revolt for him…

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Why do you think that?

TheRainMaker said:

Why do you think that?

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I think McDaniels is a Jack-@$z with zero interpersonal skills. It worked in NE, with BB providing the legitimate authority behind him. I mean, if BB approves of the offense, players will buy in. He doesn’t have that in LV, just like he didn’t in Denver. I bet he’ll have a largely discontented team pretty quickly.

F_cking Steelers really know how to Pickems.

venecol said:

F_cking Steelers really know how to Pickems.

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He's been getting work so far. If his head is on straight he'll be a very good player. Very likely he's got a little AB, M Bryant in him seeing as the Steelers picked him. Moore, Pierce, Thornton, Pickens - thats an interesting watch along with Watson.