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Toney for Harry anybody?


Never has there been so much talk for so little contribution/compensation. How many discussions does it take to say “ok we’ll give you a 7th round “conditional” pick for him”… Spare us the suspense already!
Why the hell did Harry not understand what was “at stake” his first 2 seasons

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Get rid of him
 
We have make them an offer they can’t refuse……Toney for harry, slowjuan and Bryant!
Is there a way we can throw in Jake Bequette…
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I'm not saying this isn't true but never under estimate a team actively trying to bury a player who has made it clear he doesn't want to play for them.
That makes no sense as it would diminish the player's trade value.
 
Didn't Toney roll around down in Florida with a loaded AR-15 in the backseat of his car?

Boy... you guys really want a weapon bad.
Of course that is legal in most states.
 
I'm ok with offering a conditional 3rd day pick for Toney, dependent on if he can stay on the roster. This Toney guy obviously has physical talent, but just as obviously he's a big risk to flame out of the league due to mental and/or legal issues.

Harry's probably only good for say a pick swap, hey can we get into the 5th round, and we'll throw in Harry and a 6th? Something of that nature. His value has nose-dived so badly he would never be the central piece in a trade these days.
 
That makes no sense as it would diminish the player's trade value.
When the player is trying to fire themselves off the team the team is already at a disadvantage.
 
Staggering the draft capital we paid for this man.
No it isn't. 1st round picks, especially late 1st round picks bust out every year, many much worse that Harry. This wasn't a reach pick, he was drafted 32, the last pick in the first round. Most publications had him first or second round. It wasn't widely critisized by anyone in the media or on this board. He just wasn't as good as we had hoped. Happens, you would think we picked him with the first pick of the draft the way some go on and on and on about him.
 
No it isn't. 1st round picks, especially late 1st round picks bust out every year, many much worse that Harry. This wasn't a reach pick, he was drafted 32, the last pick in the first round. Most publications had him first or second round. It wasn't widely critisized by anyone in the media or on this board. He just wasn't as good as we had hoped. Happens, you would think we picked him with the first pick of the draft the way some go on and on and on about him.
He has all the physical tools to be an excellent receiver...but nobody can predict what a players mental and emotional psyche will be after they are drafted.
 
No it isn't. 1st round picks, especially late 1st round picks bust out every year, many much worse that Harry. This wasn't a reach pick, he was drafted 32, the last pick in the first round. Most publications had him first or second round. It wasn't widely critisized by anyone in the media or on this board. He just wasn't as good as we had hoped. Happens, you would think we picked him with the first pick of the draft the way some go on and on and on about him.

What makes the Kneal Harry pick so bad isn't just that he was drafted #32 overall, but also that he was drafted ahead of more highly-regarded players at the very same position.
 
What makes the Kneal Harry pick so bad isn't just that he was drafted #32 overall, but also that he was drafted ahead of more highly-regarded players at the very same position.
That’s revisionists history. Several prognosticators had him rated top 3 in the receiver class. I had one draft guide had him 2nd, and one draft guide had him 1st. Metcalf fell because his neck injury, otherwise he would’ve been the 1st receiver taken, he was taken with the last pick in the 2nd round.

Harry was definitely rated by most as a 1st round pick. It’s HIS fault it hasn’t worked out. He doesn’t have the drive and determination to be great. Meyers, an UDFA from the same draft, out worked him, out studied him and out played him.
 
That’s revisionists history. Several prognosticators had him rated top 3 in the receiver class. I had one draft guide had him 2nd, and one draft guide had him 1st. Metcalf fell because his neck injury, otherwise he would’ve been the 1st receiver taken, he was taken with the last pick in the 2nd round.

Harry was definitely rated by most as a 1st round pick. It’s HIS fault it hasn’t worked out. He doesn’t have the drive and determination to be great. Meyers, an UDFA from the same draft, out worked him, out studied him and out played him.
Every. Single. Year.

This is how you know who to take seriously.

Harry produced at a young age which is very important and produced every year in college. He ran a 4.5 at 225, sub 7 3c, benched 225 almost 30 times with a 36 vert I think? He has a great profile and didn't hit. Pretending he wasn't on par with the others coming out is just silly though.
 
No it isn't. 1st round picks, especially late 1st round picks bust out every year, many much worse that Harry. This wasn't a reach pick, he was drafted 32, the last pick in the first round. Most publications had him first or second round. It wasn't widely critisized by anyone in the media or on this board. He just wasn't as good as we had hoped. Happens, you would think we picked him with the first pick of the draft the way some go on and on and on about him.
Just so we're clear, I was excited for him. I knew his deficiencies and what he was expected to offer. I'm disappointed it hasn't worked out. Obviously the cam year was a waste of one of his years, but I'm more or less pointing to the fact he was a 1st round pick that produced at an UDFA rate.
 
What makes the Kneal Harry pick so bad isn't just that he was drafted #32 overall, but also that he was drafted ahead of more highly-regarded players at the very same position.
You complain when Bill picks someone to early, "what an idiot thinking he was smarter than everyone picking him way before he needed to" Then you complain when Bill follows the draftnick consensus and picks a guy where everyone else thinks he should be picked. Then you complain if he picks a guy who ends up not doing well because he is hurt. I have seen your picks and frankly you shouldn't ever be the guy critisizing Bill's picks.
 
Just so we're clear, I was excited for him. I knew his deficiencies and what he was expected to offer. I'm disappointed it hasn't worked out. Obviously the cam year was a waste of one of his years, but I'm more or less pointing to the fact he was a 1st round pick that produced at an UDFA rate.
And I am pointing out he was the very last pick of the first round and he played quite a bit last year. You are not alone, but having the last pick in the first round make the team and play three seasons, while not great, certainly isn't anywhere near as bad as many of the posters here make it out to be.
 
Personally, I’d trade Harry for a frozen Tony’s pizza.
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I'd trade Harry for one of those balls of rubber bands, but I'd probably have to sweeten the deal.
 


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