Red Zone Problems on Offense for 3 Straight Years

DropKickFlutie · Sep 19, 2021

NewEraWithMac said:
Blaming Harry, Michel or Sanu is weird. They are newer players. BB sold out for the last couple titles, admitted it, and it worked.

The last title was 2018. "Selling out" for Harry or Sanu were total disasters.

thecore762 · Sep 19, 2021

Ras-IR Dowling said:
You may not like the constant posts about McDaniels but just out of curiosity on a scale of 1-10 what’s everyone’s confidence level in Mcdaniels if he is BBs successor?

(Does the OP have to be the one to put a poll up on this question?)

0 because his failed attempt trying to become a HC and also the Broncos failure drafting Tebow.

NewEraWithMac · Sep 20, 2021

DropKickFlutie said:
The last title was 2018. "Selling out" for Harry or Sanu were total disasters.

Sanu was a Brady request and I bet Harry was meant to provide a large X receiver, the first 1st rd WR pick for Brady and he still skipped OTAs.

Gordon, Brown, Sanu.

Brady couldn't be pleased. Giselle.

Ras-IR Dowling · Sep 20, 2021

NewEraWithMac said:
Sanu was a Brady request and I bet Harry was meant to provide a large X receiver, the first 1st rd WR pick for Brady and he still skipped OTAs.

Gordon, Brown, Sanu.

Brady couldn't be pleased. Giselle.

We all know Harry was supposed to be our next Alpha after Edelman to lead our Wr core; the problem is not only that he’s been a huge bust but there’s so many other Wrs taken after him that have boomed to this point. (DK, Dionte Johnson, Deebo, AJ brown, McClaurin). Any one of those 5 would’ve pleased Tom.

DropKickFlutie · Sep 20, 2021

NewEraWithMac said:
Sanu was a Brady request and I bet Harry was meant to provide a large X receiver, the first 1st rd WR pick for Brady and he still skipped OTAs.

Gordon, Brown, Sanu.

Brady couldn't be pleased. Giselle.

Yeah ok you're a stooge for the Pats.

I'll tell you how the dumb pick for Harry was made. "We just lost Gronk. Harry is a big receiver who can fight for the ball." This is how picks get made by low IQs out of john carroll.

And there are absolutely zero links that Brady asked for Sanu. He probably asked for help and then gave a generic Brady positive quote when they got Sanu. The blunders for Harry, Sanu, Michel are classic john carroll roommate moves.

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archstanton543 · Sep 20, 2021

DropKickFlutie said:
Yeah ok you're a stooge for the Pats.

I'll tell you how the dumb pick for Harry was made. "We just lost Gronk. Harry is a big receiver who can fight for the ball." This is how picks get made by low IQs out of john carroll.

And there are absolutely zero links that Brady asked for Sanu. He probably asked for help and then gave a generic Brady positive quote when they got Sanu. The blunders for Harry, Sanu, Michel are classic john carroll roommate moves.

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Michel wasn't a blunder.

Here, let me ask you a question. Do you think this banner is a blunder? If you think Sony Michel is a blunder, you think this banner is.

patriots-2018-super-bowl-championship-banner-unveiled-1567988550.jpg

Ring 6 · Sep 20, 2021

DropKickFlutie said:
I'm glad you care so much. Really great counter arguments you are offering. Just ignore if you don't want to read about your family member. But keep chiming in and posting here too, you're welcome to, I want to keep discussing this

THE PATRIOTS WON TODAY.
You have written about 75 posts since the game ended, and not a single one was positive.

DropKickFlutie · Sep 20, 2021

archstanton543 said:
Michel wasn't a blunder.

Here, let me ask you a question. Do you think this banner is a blunder? If you think Sony Michel is a blunder, you think this banner is.

Nah. Pats would have won a ring with another RB. The defense held the Rams to the lowest points ever in a Superbowl and also other RBs (like Blount) would have still run behind those massive playoff holes created by Gronk and Develin. Plus Brady had the perfect throw to Gronk. I think it's a major leap to claim Michel was integral just because he was drafted. In terms of production above alternative player I think the Pats would have gotten the same thing with Blount

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Ring 6 · Sep 20, 2021

Ring 6 said:
THE PATRIOTS WON TODAY.
You have written about 75 posts since the game ended, and not a single one was positive.

Dropkickflutie disagreed which could only mean he doesn’t realize the patriots won.

rochrist · Sep 20, 2021

DropKickFlutie said:
Nah. Pats would have won a ring with another RB. The defense held the Rams to the lowest points ever in a Superbowl and also other RBs (like Blount) would have still run behind those massive playoff holes created by Gronk and Develin. Plus Brady had the perfect throw to Gronk. I think it's a major leap to claim Michel was integral just because he was drafted. In terms of production above alternative player I think the Pats would have gotten the same thing with Blount

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Do you ever get tired of hearing yourself whine? Why don't you take it up with Bill? Or Kraft even? I mean, the level of malfeasance of Pats management is positively criminal!!!

catent · Sep 20, 2021

At the risk of being “that guy”, do you have anything better to do with your time?

A hobby, maybe? Chores to be done? Maybe go for a walk or a run?

It’s textbook bloviating; you’re repeating the exact same talking point, again, and again, and again … and again, without any nuance, critical thought, nor insight. There’s no value being provided to the forum at this point - it’s effectively spam.

You’re entitled to your opinion, but stating it once doesn’t seem to be enough. I’d encourage you to relax a bit, gain the self-awareness to accept that others will disagree with you (and that’s OK - it’s not all about you, your opinions, and you being “right”), and find an alternative outlet to dump all that time/energy into.

rochrist · Sep 20, 2021

DropKickFlutie · Sep 20, 2021

rochrist said:
Do you ever get tired of

It wouldn't need to be raised if it weren't happening.

The Patriots are being outcoached in the red zone on offense. And it's been the case since 2018. Fact.

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NewEraWithMac · Sep 20, 2021

DropKickFlutie said:
Yeah ok you're a stooge for the Pats.

I'll tell you how the dumb pick for Harry was made. "We just lost Gronk. Harry is a big receiver who can fight for the ball." This is how picks get made by low IQs out of john carroll.

And there are absolutely zero links that Brady asked for Sanu. He probably asked for help and then gave a generic Brady positive quote when they got Sanu. The blunders for Harry, Sanu, Michel are classic john carroll roommate moves.

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I don't need links. I know what was reported by trusted beatwriters.

NFL rumors: Patriots QB Tom Brady ‘really pushed for' Mohamed Sanu trade

The New England Patriots upgraded the talent and depth of their wide receiver corps Tuesday by trading for Mohamed Sanu in a deal with the Atlanta Falcons, and quarterback Tom Brady reportedly played a role in making the move happen. NFL Media’s Mike Garafolo reported Sunday on NFL Network that...

www.nbcsports.com

BB doesn't just sign WRs arbitrarily, he asks his future HOF for his thoughts as well. Gordon and Brown were absolutely Brady blessed signings.

Boston Boxer · Sep 20, 2021

DropKickFlutie said:
I'd be for trying to entice Brian Daboll or Bill O'Brien to back here, in some capacity (perhaps an OC title + Asst HC). I think this team would really contend if we kept BB as hc and changed up the oc. We are wasting time to find out the current oc is a fraud.

Gumby said:
Just rename him “son of NEM”

lol..NEM really hated Charlie Weiss. Almost had a nervous breakdown over him

Ivan · Sep 20, 2021

Pape said:
@Ian can you please stop dropkickflutie from posting the same anti-mcdniels screed over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over

WINNER!

It is exactly like NEM, who was permanently banished for posting the same garbage over and over, day after day, year after year.

Ivan · Sep 20, 2021

NewEraWithMac said:
I don't need links. I know what was reported by trusted beatwriters.

NFL rumors: Patriots QB Tom Brady ‘really pushed for' Mohamed Sanu trade

The New England Patriots upgraded the talent and depth of their wide receiver corps Tuesday by trading for Mohamed Sanu in a deal with the Atlanta Falcons, and quarterback Tom Brady reportedly played a role in making the move happen. NFL Media’s Mike Garafolo reported Sunday on NFL Network that...

www.nbcsports.com

BB doesn't just sign WRs arbitrarily, he asks his future HOF for his thoughts as well. Gordon and Brown were absolutely Brady blessed signings.

DropKickNewton literally just makes sh.t up as reasons to crap in MacDaniels, and he ignores the facts whenever they are presented to him.

DropKickFlutie · Sep 20, 2021

Ivan said:
DropKickNewton literally just makes sh.t up as reasons to crap in MacDaniels, and he ignores the facts whenever they are presented to him.

Here ya go buddy. A bunch of FACTS since this is an actual problem.

1. 2021 red zone offense is 2 for 7.

2. 2019 season when Tom Brady was here:
27th in the NFL in red zone offense.
28th in converting plays that need 3 or fewer yards.
Last in TE touchdowns.

Publications:

2019: Red zone and short-yardage failures

Patriots offense couldn't get the 'gotta have it' yards in 2019

Red zone and short-yardage situations were ultimately the fatal flaw for the 2019 Patriots offense.

www.patriots.com

2019: Red Zone Issues

Patriots need better red zone offense to survive gauntlet of schedule

The Patriots aren't cashing in when they get to the red zone - and that's a huge problem with games coming up against some of the best offenses in the NFL.

musketfire.com

2019: "How bad are the Pats in the red zone?"

How bad are the Patriots’ troubles in the red zone? - The Boston Globe

The Patriots are 24th in red-zone offense. They were 15th last year, and fifth, eighth, fourth, and ninth the four years before that.

www.bostonglobe.com

2020: Patriots "were too predictable in the red zone"

Patriots were too predictable in red zone last year. That should improve after spending spree

The Patriots made it too easy for defenses to keep them out of the end zone last year. With Jonnu Smith and Hunter Henry, that changes.

theathletic.com

DropKickFlutie · Sep 20, 2021

Boston Boxer said:
lol..NEM really hated Charlie Weiss.

Charlie Weiss, Brian Daboll, Bill O'Brien were all excellent offensive minds and coordinators for the Pats or other teams. Brady carried mcD for 15 yrs and mcD has failed spectacularly 3 different times without Tommy.

thecore762 · Sep 20, 2021

Maybe it’s time for Harry to become a tight end. Guy cannot get any separation.

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