OT: Official 2020 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

venecol · Feb 13, 2021

Interesting free agent ratings and predictions from folks at PFF. They show Bucs signing most of their top free agents:

#2 Godwin - Bucs franchise tag.
#8 L David - Bucs sign 3 yrs @ $40M
#11 W Fuller - Packers sign 5 yrs @ $87.5M
#13 J Thuney - Cardinals sign 4 yrs @ $57M
#14 S Barrett - Bucs sign 4 yrs @ $68M
#17 Fitzpatrick - Pats sign 1 yr @ $10M
#18 R. Sherman - Bills sign 2 yrs @ $28M
#29 J. Winston - Colts sign 1 yr @ $5M
#30 AB - Bucs sign 1 yr @ $2M
#57 Gronk - Bucs sign 1 yr @ $10M
#69 D. Andrews - Pats sign 3 yrs @ $18M
#83 M. Davis - Bucs sign 2 yrs @ $8.5M
#86 J. White - Pats sign 2 yrs @ $10M
#99 Suh - Bucs sign 1 yr @ $6.75M

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PatsWickedPissah · Feb 13, 2021

Bleedthrough said:
In the thread from I linked, they have now mentioned all the below as better than Brady

Patrick Mahomes
Joe Montana
Brett Favre
Dan Marino
Aaron Rodgers
Johnny Unitas
Otto Graham
Bart Starr
Peyton Manning
Steve Young
Warren Moon

So they're saying that a mediocre QB has tooled them twice in the playoffs.
HERE is what they need!

Deus Irae · Feb 13, 2021

PatsWickedPissah said:
So they're saying that a mediocre QB has tooled them twice in the playoffs.
HERE is what they need!

The Tom Brady Derangement Syndrome runs rampant through Chiefsplanet.

AlexB · Feb 13, 2021

Bleedthrough said:
Bigger punishment than Tyreek got for beating a woman and child.

They should have given him a reward instead

Biffins · Feb 13, 2021

TheRainMaker said:
If JJ Watt really wants a ring, he should put his money where his mouth is and sign for peanuts. He's already made a ton of money in the NFL.

Only reason I don't see the Steelers as an option is because he'd be a backup.

He will. So will others. Mike Evans already saying he'll sign for less is starting the trend.

People are only willing to do that when they feel there's a HIGH probability of wining SB. BB can't say that anymore.

FAs will go to the Bucs for cheaper while Brady is there. Which is probably 2 more years.

Biffins · Feb 13, 2021

venecol said:
Interesting free agent ratings and predictions from folks at PFF. They show Bucs signing most of their top free agents:

#2 Godwin - Bucs franchise tag.
#8 L David - Bucs sign 3 yrs @ $40M
#11 W Fuller - Packers sign 5 yrs @ $87.5M
#13 J Thuney - Cardinals sign 4 yrs @ $57M
#14 S Barrett - Bucs sign 4 yrs @ $68M
#17 Fitzpatrick - Pats sign 1 yr @ $10M
#18 R. Sherman - Bills sign 2 yrs @ $28M
#29 J. Winston - Colts sign 1 yr @ $5M
#30 AB - Bucs sign 1 yr @ $2M
#57 Gronk - Bucs sign 1 yr @ $10M
#69 D. Andrews - Pats sign 3 yrs @ $18M
#83 M. Davis - Bucs sign 2 yrs @ $8.5M
#86 J. White - Pats sign 2 yrs @ $10M
#99 Suh - Bucs sign 1 yr @ $6.75M

2021 Free Agency: Ranking the NFL's top 250 free agents | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF

With team-building season officially underway, PFF takes a look at the 250 best players available in the 2021 NFL free agency class.

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They can also extend Brady and reduce the cap hit.

PP2 · Feb 13, 2021

h0c2000 said:
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Man... Marpet moves like a mother****er.

captain stone · Feb 13, 2021

Bleedthrough said:
In the thread from I linked, they have now mentioned all the below as better than Brady

Patrick Mahomes
Joe Montana
Brett Favre
Dan Marino
Aaron Rodgers
Johnny Unitas
Otto Graham
Bart Starr
Peyton Manning
Steve Young
Warren Moon

Over half of those names don't belong in ANY serious "X is > Brady" discussion.

bormio · Feb 13, 2021

AlexB said:
They should have given him a reward instead

Should have named an award after him. The Antonio Winfield Community Service Award.

captain stone · Feb 13, 2021

PP2 said:
Man... Marpet moves like a mother****er.

Yep...I was disappointed when Tampa chose him at #61 during the 2015 draft...I might've taken him ahead of Tyler Lockett at #64 to be the LG replacement for Logan Mankin$ that Joel Bitonio should've been the year before...

venecol · Feb 13, 2021

Biffins said:
They can also extend Brady and reduce the cap hit.

Licht said at the parade party that ownership had given them the resources to keep the team together. I was reading that meant ownership would need to pay more up front cash in the form of bonuses. Not a cap guy, does that make sense?

Deus Irae · Feb 13, 2021

Deus Irae · Feb 13, 2021

venecol said:
Licht said at the parade party that ownership had given them the resources to keep the team together. I was reading that meant ownership would need to pay more up front cash in the form of bonuses. Not a cap guy, does that make sense?

Higher first year payout via bonus, lower first year cap hit via base salary escalation and bonus hit spread out over the life of the deal.

Deus Irae · Feb 13, 2021

amfootball · Feb 14, 2021

venecol said:
Licht said at the parade party that ownership had given them the resources to keep the team together. I was reading that meant ownership would need to pay more up front cash in the form of bonuses. Not a cap guy, does that make sense?

The guaranteed money is the key. If the Bucs offer the most money up front then they will resign their key FAs. That money is then spread over the length of the deal which keeps the cap hits manageable.

skinnydog · Feb 14, 2021

venecol said:
Licht said at the parade party that ownership had given them the resources to keep the team together. I was reading that meant ownership would need to pay more up front cash in the form of bonuses. Not a cap guy, does that make sense?

Yes, because signing their free agents will require a lot of up front money in the form of signing bonuses Which are spread out over the life of the contract for salary cap purposes, but require a lot of cash to be paid up front. In terms of actual cash payments, the Bucs will spend far above the cap this year if they do that.

RicoG · Feb 14, 2021

venecol said:
Interesting free agent ratings and predictions from folks at PFF. They show Bucs signing most of their top free agents:

#2 Godwin - Bucs franchise tag.
#8 L David - Bucs sign 3 yrs @ $40M
#11 W Fuller - Packers sign 5 yrs @ $87.5M
#13 J Thuney - Cardinals sign 4 yrs @ $57M
#14 S Barrett - Bucs sign 4 yrs @ $68M
#17 Fitzpatrick - Pats sign 1 yr @ $10M
#18 R. Sherman - Bills sign 2 yrs @ $28M
#29 J. Winston - Colts sign 1 yr @ $5M
#30 AB - Bucs sign 1 yr @ $2M
#57 Gronk - Bucs sign 1 yr @ $10M
#69 D. Andrews - Pats sign 3 yrs @ $18M
#83 M. Davis - Bucs sign 2 yrs @ $8.5M
#86 J. White - Pats sign 2 yrs @ $10M
#99 Suh - Bucs sign 1 yr @ $6.75M

2021 Free Agency: Ranking the NFL's top 250 free agents | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF

With team-building season officially underway, PFF takes a look at the 250 best players available in the 2021 NFL free agency class.

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That sounds about right for Gronk. I've heard talking heads downplay Gronk cause he is not out there making catches, as if Gronk's ability to stone DE on an Island is worthless. They think Gronk would sign for 5mil or less. For TE, 10 mil is rank 5th, 7.5 is about 10, and 6.5 is about 15. I think overall Gronk is still a top 5 TE. He will take a discount but I bet it will be a 2 year, 8 mil average.

2nd tier top WR are 10 to 20 mil. So if we put AB at the bottom of that due to age and the inherent risk in signing him, I'd put his FMV at 10mil. So no way AB signs for 2 mil. 5 mil is the lowest with a hometown discount.

h0c2000 · Feb 14, 2021

captain stone said:
If nasty strip clubs are the worst of it, then that looks pretty good to me...

Let's just say Laura Ingalls grew up to have meth teeth and misspelled tats.

1960Pats · Feb 14, 2021

amfootball said:
LOL. That's my favorite. The game was RIGGED. RIGGED I tell ya. Yet there he is on a fan board typing away about a sport that is supposedly fixed. I never understood that type of fan. Why watch a sport that you believe is fixed much less sign up for a fan board? Can someone explain that psyche to me, if possible?

People watch wrastlin' don't they?

carmelo15 · Feb 14, 2021

Tampa can’t be this stupid man unreal choosing a WR over Barret when you’re loaded at that position, mind boggling

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