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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.That's what losing does. Just look around here after only 1 losing season there are folks that want BB's head on a pike. LolIs that why the vast majority of Bucs fans wanted to fire him?
Successful season: Winning the Super Bowl.Please inform us all where, in the NFL, the line between successful/failure is. What's the win total? Is a playoff appearance the line? A particular round in the playoffs?
Where's that line of demarcation?
Licht's first couple of drafts were pedestrian, and he had the same misfortune that McDaniels had in Denver:Is that why the vast majority of Bucs fans wanted to fire him?
I didn't "warp" the quote. I copy/pasted it verbatum.You really warped that quote. Read it again.
Arians said, "I think personally, too, he’s making a statement, you know? It wasn’t all coach [Bill] Belichick.”
Making any long lasting judgements at this point may be premature, but Belichick's legacy will be diminished if he has no success over the 5 years or so while Brady wins a Super Bowl or 2.thinking BB's legacy should diminish because of Brady's 2020 season on a new team is like saying Brady's legacy should diminish because in 2002 he didn't win another SB. Or because of the '05-'13 seasons he fell short. It's absurd!
I wondered why arians is mentioning belichick so much. i realized that it likely is because BB and the pats routinely beat down his colts and steelers teams and beat him at AZ with garrapolo starting his first game. Nothing personal i guess...Sports Illustrated: SI reports (quoting Arians) that Brady was driven to win to prove Patriots success was him and not Belichick
Magnificent Seventh: How Brady’s Bucs Became Super Bowl Champions
A bold experiment, a midseason slump and a “melding of the minds” between aging coach and legendary QB. How a season was saved and a champion emerged.www.si.com
“Tom is playing for his teammates right now,” Arians said. “He wants those guys to experience what he’s experienced six times. I think personally, too, he’s making a statement, you know? It wasn’t all coach [Bill] Belichick.”
Either that or.... you know.... he's right.....I wondered why arians is mentioning belichick so much. i realized that it likely is because BB and the pats routinely beat down his colts and steelers teams and beat him at AZ with garrapolo starting his first game. Nothing personal i guess...
Why make stuff up? He never said that. He spoke to Bill one last time early March to give the Pats one last chance at keeping him. Bill told him the highest they could go was 1 yr $22m, talking like he was employee #12 and not an upcoming free agent. All it took was 2 yrs $50m, the Drew Brees deal. Bill blew it, plain and simple. That early March phone meeting was reported on from various outlets. Stop making stuff up.He didn’t trade Brady. Brady was a free agent and told the patriots he was leaving and there was nothing they could do to keep him
He went to Robert krafts house before free agency started and told him he was leaving. Kraft asked him if there was anything they could do to keep him and he said no.Why make stuff up? He never said that. He spoke to Bill one last time early March to give the Pats one last chance at keeping him. Bill told him the highest they could go was 1 yr $22m, talking like he was employee #12 and not an upcoming free agent. All it took was 2 yrs $50m, the Drew Brees deal. Bill blew it, plain and simple. That early March phone meeting was reported on from various outlets. Stop making stuff up.
Ya, he went to Krafts house after he spoke to Bill on the phone. What the hell do you think Bill and Brady talked about?He went to Robert krafts house before free agency started and told him he was leaving. Kraft asked him if there was anything they could do to keep him and he said no.
Thats a fact.
Your rumored offer from belichick is not a fact.
AFAIK it was widely reported that pats and brady had zero contract before the FA . They did talk before the season started in 2019 and once brady knew it wont work out he knew it was going to be is last season in NE. He even said so on the howard stern show.Ya, he went to Krafts house after he spoke to Bill on the phone. What the hell do you think Bill and Brady talked about?
We all know the facts:
2018 - After winning MVP and bringing the Pats to the SB, which they lost because Butler was benched, he was offered a 1 yr incentive deal
2019 - After winning the SB he got another 1 yr incentive deal which he only signed if he could become FA. He knew he wasn’t gonna get a multi year commitment from Bill.
2020 - spoke to Bill one last time before hitting FA. Got nothing from Bill and signed with Bucs for the 2 year Brees deal he wanted from Bill. Won SB first year making Bill look foolish.
Any way you slice this Bill comes out looking like an ass. He had the greatest player ever and ****ed him around with 1 yr prove it deals. Bill rolls out Cam this year and we have the worst offence we’ve ever seen. Brady should of retired a Patriot and it’s on Bill, and to a lessor degree Kraft, that he isn’t.
Bunch of JAGS. LmaoPlayers on the 2018 and/or 2019 team who were not on the 2020 team.
Brady
Collins
Hightower
Van Noy
Gronk
Gost
Chung
Cannon
Clayborn
Develin
Ebner
Dwayne Allen
Ryan Allen
Harmon
Patterson
Waddle
Brown
Dorsett
Flowers
King
Shelton
Malcom Brown
Roberts
Crossen
Antonio Brown
Gordon
Bolden
Certainly agree Bill has missed on some picks but my god that's a lot of talent and production that walked out the door.
7-9 looks more like a miracle to me every day.
That meeting at Kraft’s house was after BB shafted Brady. Infact BB and Kraft really shafted Brady a year earlier when just after he won the SB they told him “no extension” and Brady put his house for sale.He went to Robert krafts house before free agency started and told him he was leaving. Kraft asked him if there was anything they could do to keep him and he said no.
Thats a fact.
Your rumored offer from belichick is not a fact.
7-9 will look not so bad if we do even worse next year.Players on the 2018 and/or 2019 team who were not on the 2020 team.
Brady
Collins
Hightower
Van Noy
Gronk
Gost
Chung
Cannon
Clayborn
Develin
Ebner
Dwayne Allen
Ryan Allen
Harmon
Patterson
Waddle
Brown
Dorsett
Flowers
King
Shelton
Malcom Brown
Roberts
Crossen
Antonio Brown
Gordon
Bolden
Certainly agree Bill has missed on some picks but my god that's a lot of talent and production that walked out the door.
7-9 looks more like a miracle to me every day.
Exactly. Why are people forgetting this sequence of events. BB kicked out Brady by jerking him around on 1 year incentive laden prove it deals.Ya, he went to Krafts house after he spoke to Bill on the phone. What the hell do you think Bill and Brady talked about?
We all know the facts:
2018 - After winning MVP and bringing the Pats to the SB, which they lost because Butler was benched, he was offered a 1 yr incentive deal
2019 - After winning the SB he got another 1 yr incentive deal which he only signed if he could become FA. He knew he wasn’t gonna get a multi year commitment from Bill.
2020 - spoke to Bill one last time before hitting FA. Got nothing from Bill and signed with Bucs for the 2 year Brees deal he wanted from Bill. Won SB first year making Bill look foolish.
Any way you slice this Bill comes out looking like an ass. He had the greatest player ever and ****ed him around with 1 yr prove it deals. Bill rolls out Cam this year and we have the worst offence we’ve ever seen. Brady should of retired a Patriot and it’s on Bill, and to a lessor degree Kraft, that he isn’t.