NFL Orders all facilities to shut down Mon and Tues

lancerman · Nov 28, 2020

I do enjoy that every team but the Steelers gets to take some days off

cmasspatsfan · Nov 28, 2020

Triumph said:
Will Patsfans still be open Ian?

You have to wear a mask when you log on.

Ring 6 · Nov 28, 2020

PP2 said:
Because Australia enforced a very strick lockdown right away, they were able to get back to business much quicker.

Haven’t we learned a lock down is nothing more than a pause? Locking down doesn’t kill the virus, it only slows down the spread. Once you go back to normal you haven’t changed anything other than the date of the spread.

Nehalem · Nov 28, 2020

While in some sense it is weird to allow the games on Sunday and then lockdown on Monday and Tuesday.

There is probably some actual sense in it. If we assume the league is worried about exposure on Thanksgiving. That means that the games on Sunday would be 3 days after exposure.

Whereas Monday and Tuesday would be 4-5 days after exposure.

I could be wrong, but I thought 4-5 days was more dangerous because the virus had more time to reproduce and make you infectious. And at this point you also tended to still test negative.

Now obviously this is still really risky. But then the whole NFL season has been really risky to begin with.

PatsFanInVa · Nov 28, 2020

Nehalem said:
While in some sense it is weird to allow the games on Sunday and then lockdown on Monday and Tuesday.

There is probably some actual sense in it. If we assume the league is worried about exposure on Thanksgiving. That means that the games on Sunday would be 3 days after exposure.

Whereas Monday and Tuesday would be 4-5 days after exposure.

I could be wrong, but I thought 4-5 days was more dangerous because the virus had more time to reproduce and make you infectious. And at this point you also tended to still test negative.

Now obviously this is still really risky. But then the whole NFL season has been really risky to begin with.

Definitely rolling the dice. They can't process the idea of an NBA-style bubble (it would be logistically mind-boggling, but the potential profits are mind-boggling too). Right now you could put together what would normally be a $100k Super Bowl package and send it to me in some heavily insured registered mail, and I'd hope I could get money for it on stubhub. No. Effin. Way. I would use those tix.

Midship · Nov 28, 2020

FortressX said:
Very close to summer in Australia.

That has a lot more to do with it than political people.

People like you are why the USA is in the **** state that it is. Willful ignorance is rampant. ****ing troglodytes.

Kontradiction · Nov 28, 2020

PatsFanInVa said:
Definitely rolling the dice. They can't process the idea of an NBA-style bubble (it would be logistically mind-boggling, but the potential profits are mind-boggling too). Right now you could put together what would normally be a $100k Super Bowl package and send it to me in some heavily insured registered mail, and I'd hope I could get money for it on stubhub. No. Effin. Way. I would use those tix.

Can you explain real quick how it would be more profitable for the NFL to play in a bubble? Not saying that I agree or disagree just yet. I just can’t wrap my mind around it and figure out what exactly how. Even with the hypothetical Super Bowl situation you floated.

slash83 · Nov 28, 2020

FortressX said:
Very close to summer in Australia.

That has a lot more to do with it than political people.

America is run by political snakes who don’t care about you or I, politics have a lot to do with the state of the country today.

BTTA · Nov 28, 2020

slash83 said:
America is run by political snakes who don’t care about you or I, politics have a lot to do with the state of the country today.

The "political snakes" you speak of are not running the country. They are doing what they are paid to do by their benefactors. Getting everyone caught up with individual politicians is one of the great con games of the last 200 years.

slash83 · Nov 28, 2020

betterthanthealternative said:
The "political snakes" you speak of are not running the country. They are doing what they are paid to do by their benefactors. Getting everyone caught up with individual politicians is one of the great con games of the last 200 years.

They’re still snakes in my eyes at the end of the day.

Ian · Nov 28, 2020

Let's shift this away from the political discussion and back toward the NFL effect.

The thought process seems to be extending the isolation time of the players away from the facilities and ensuring the negative results are really negative. The only problem is, as PFT points out, given the timeframe in relation to the holiday, one example shows that the timing of the test results didn't help with the recent outbreak in Baltimore:

"Players who have caught COVID-19 from out-of-town guests could be shedding virus on Sunday, with a positive sample given Sunday morning not being tested and returned until after the game. That’s one of the factors that contributed to the outbreak in Baltimore."

So this latest move is hopefully reducing the impact heading into next week and being able to potentially keep positive players from causing a larger outbreak. Whether or not it works is the big question, but it obviously remains a challenge heading into the end of the season.

NormZauchin · Nov 28, 2020

1960Pats said:
At the rate the NYFL is going I'll soon be down to hockey and golf as my only sports, and I'm not even sure that golf is a sport. It could be defined as a game.

Golf is a sport where speed counts for nothing. It does place a premium on coordination. Great athletes like Ted Williams and Michael Jordan were not able to become scratch golfers.

PP2 · Nov 28, 2020

Ian said:
Let's shift this away from the political discussion and back toward the NFL effect.

The thought process seems to be extending the isolation time of the players away from the facilities and ensuring the negative results are really negative. The only problem is, as PFT points out, given the timeframe in relation to the holiday, one example shows that the timing of the test results didn't help with the recent outbreak in Baltimore:

"Players who have caught COVID-19 from out-of-town guests could be shedding virus on Sunday, with a positive sample given Sunday morning not being tested and returned until after the game. That’s one of the factors that contributed to the outbreak in Baltimore."

So this latest move is hopefully reducing the impact heading into next week and being able to potentially keep positive players from causing a larger outbreak. Whether or not it works is the big question, but it obviously remains a challenge heading into the end of the season.

It's a completely moot move that will accomplish absolutely nothing. It's just a PR stunt.

There's just too many variables out of the NFL's control for this to even work in any way. And if the NFL really cared, they would have cancelled all games tomorrow and push the season ahead one week to try and stay on top of the Thanksgiving surge.

mgteich · Nov 28, 2020

PP2 said:
This is laughable, pure unadulterated idiocy and shows how much the NFL treasures revenue above everything else.

Apparently, you disapprove of the priorities of the league: revenues and player health.

mgteich · Nov 28, 2020

PP2 said:
Because Australia enforced a very strick lockdown right away, they were able to get back to business much quicker.

and how many Australians are in the hospital with COVID? What is their hospitalization numbers now and 2 months ago?

This is great picture, showing how we could be now, with national leadership as good as in Australia.

woolster22 · Nov 28, 2020

mgteich said:
and how many Australians are in the hospital with COVID? What is their hospitalization numbers now and 2 months ago?

This is great picture, showing how we could be now, with national leadership as good as in Australia.

Couple that with a similarly disconnected picture regarding blockchain/crypto or renewables and we may as well live on different planets.

XLIX · Nov 28, 2020

sb1 said:
Less than 50% chance now that the season will finish. Would have said 90% a month ago. Sounds like the league agrees.

The season will finish. I wouldn't bet the farm on everything proceeding as currently scheduled, but it will finish eventually.

moosekill · Nov 28, 2020

I am sorry many of you are complete and total
Idiots. Europe had the spike, went in complete lockdown numbers looked great all summer and now are having huge surges. Northern Us initial surge, lockdown, numbers way down all summer, huge surge in fall. Southern us and California no initial surge numbers great. California is the way to go, boom extreme heat hits, huge surge still going on. Sweden no lockdown, now better numbers than the us and almost all European countries.

moosekill · Nov 28, 2020

most football players don’t even know they have it. Less dangerous to under 30’s than the flu. Same danger as the flu to under 60’s. Protect the elderly and let everyone else get on with life, it will be over much faster.

moosekill · Nov 28, 2020

The temperature doesn’t effect the virus, it is the fact we are all cooped up inside that makes transmission much more likely. You are most likely to catch it from your family you live with. When you are all inside breathing the same air for hours and hours without wearing a mask you will most likely catch it.

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