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Taking stock of the playoff races at the quarter pole of the NFL season


@TommyBrady12 and @sb1

This post is why this thread was created. This post coupled with the OP made this thread entertaining. But instead of contributing you two jackasses decided to hijack it with your trolling shenanigans.

I'm not sure why it's allowed. If you don't want to participate in a thread then stay the **** out of it.

Anyway, my apologies to @jmt57 for using your post as an example. Great post by the way.


Moderation and censorship has gotten out of control here, but they're still letting these assclowns deliberately mess up thread after thread. It makes sense, but only an a "Year 2020" sort of way.
 
I’m impressed with the team. They show fight.

Anyone who puts too much stock in last night needs to be reminded of the crazy circumstances. it’s not to say the team can have 4-5 « good losses », but last night isn’t a good barometer.

I don’t know if NE will make the playoffs. But I agree 3-2 at the bye, with losses in SEA & in KC is solid.

If Cam played, the Pats beat KC.

We actually have the most upside for the final 12.

Years ago, theganggreen.com had threads pointing out that once the league switches to small, fast defensive players to counter spread offenses......Belichick will switch to a power style running attack.

We have the POTENTIAL to counter the elite passing attacks. Who stops our running attack?
 
Don't forget to factor in
(1) NE plays a decent amount of games vs non-contenders. They may make the playoffs. Once there/if there, I have limited expectations.
(2) both losses could very well be against the two SB teams

Well, I guess we should be thankful we never played and lost to the Rams in 2001.

That would have never allowed us to win SB XXXVI.

Losing a game while on the one yard line isn't exactly a harbinger of continued hopeless failure.

An extra 20 seconds and they win.
 
I may have to reassess my previous dismissal of the Chicago Bears.

Their defense looks legit, and the offense does just enough to win.





 
@TommyBrady12 and @sb1

This post is why this thread was created. This post coupled with the OP made this thread entertaining. But instead of contributing you two jackasses decided to hijack it with your trolling shenanigans.

I'm not sure why it's allowed. If you don't want to participate in a thread then stay the **** out of it.

Anyway, my apologies to @jmt57 for using your post as an example. Great post by the way.
To be honest it's impossible to keep up with all the petty fights people get into anymore. The best that can be done is to report it if you see it and we do our best. Ian has been superhuman with this lately but it's still quite difficult.

I echo you here that I don't mind the thread and it's an interesting conversation - it's obviously very early but still fun to discuss.

For some teams it is quite difficult to draw conclusions yet. I'd say the Patriots are one such team. They are 2-2 with losses to two of the best teams in the league. In one of them, they were literally 1 yard from a win, and in the other they were without their starting QB and dealing with COVID problems (had to fly and play on the same day which is awful) but still put up a good fight despite all the trouble. So it's tough to say they're demonstrably "worse" than Buffalo who has not faced nearly that much adversity and has beaten the Jete (lol), Miami (by 3), LA Rams (by 3 - and the refs screwed the Rams) and Vegas (by 7). So yeah they are 4-0 but could easily be 1-3 if the ball bounced slightly differently. They still have to face KC, SEA, LAC, SF and PITT this year (and NE twice), let's see how those games go.
 
To be honest it's impossible to keep up with all the petty fights people get into anymore. The best that can be done is to report it if you see it and we do our best. Ian has been superhuman with this lately but it's still quite difficult.

I echo you here that I don't mind the thread and it's an interesting conversation - it's obviously very early but still fun to discuss.

For some teams it is quite difficult to draw conclusions yet. I'd say the Patriots are one such team. They are 2-2 with losses to two of the best teams in the league. In one of them, they were literally 1 yard from a win, and in the other they were without their starting QB and dealing with COVID problems (had to fly and play on the same day which is awful) but still put up a good fight despite all the trouble. So it's tough to say they're demonstrably "worse" than Buffalo who has not faced nearly that much adversity and has beaten the Jete (lol), Miami (by 3), LA Rams (by 3 - and the refs screwed the Rams) and Vegas (by 7). So yeah they are 4-0 but could easily be 1-3 if the ball bounced slightly differently. They still have to face KC, SEA, LAC, SF and PITT this year (and NE twice), let's see how those games go.

There's no doubt in my mind that the Pats have a good chance of winning the division. I guess I should add a Covid caveat on that.
 
They'll be 3-2 at the bye, then they'll get Cam back and there's only 1 game left they are guaranteed to lose (Baltimore)

There's a number of coin flips games and they'll probably split with Buffalo, at best.

Right now I think with a healthy Cam they go 10-6 if they underachieve, 11-5 if they play to their ability, 12-4 if they play out of their minds.

This post is just a thinly-veiled attempt at trying to feel right about something (I don't pay attention to him enough to know what but I guess it's some roster management hate against BB) by a poster who would routinely crap on this type of post made by anyone excited about where the season is heading if the Patriots were currently highly ranked in the playoff seedings.
o lol u mean deus
 
No team in the league has been impacted more by Covid than the Pats. More opt outs than any team plus they lose their starting QB moments before their last game. As usual BB has them playing disciplined football and they appear to have the ability to compete with any team in the league. Their margin for error is clearly smaller than usual so they'll need to avoid any upsets I think if they are going to win the division (this week being one of them) and will need to win a couple of the toss up games. With Covid hovering you never know what could happen in the playoffs with player availability so all teams are potentially vulnerable.
 
Pointing out that you're doing nothing but trolling is not throwing a tantrum. It's just pointing out that you're doing nothing but trolling. And, please, feel free to put me on ignore. You bring nothing to the table at this point. Maybe the function will work better for you than it has for TommyBrady12.

Most of your responses in this thread are to posters who I have on ignore. That reminds me of a close friend that I play golf with who complains about slow play on every tee, which makes the slow play worse.
 
Where things stand vs preseason expectations at the ¼ pole, IMHO:

AFC East:
I figured Buffalo would have lost to the Rams and be 3-1 rather than 4-0, but other than that the records are about what I expected.
Pats at 2-2 with losses at Seattle and at KC is what I had anticipated, as is Miami at 1-3 and the Jets looking like an 0-16 team.

AFC North:
Pittsburgh being 3-0 is not a surprise given those wins were against the Giants, Broncos and Texans; had the game vs Tennessee been played that would have given us a better sense of how good they are. To me the big surprise is Cleveland, specifically their offense (31 points per game, #1 in AFC).

AFC South:
The Texans had to begin the season with games against the Chiefs, Ravens, Steelers and Vikings, so it is not a surprise that they are 0-4. Cal McNair continues his father's legacy of kneejerk reactions without a plan by firing Bill O'Brien (though to be fair, the GM duties should have been taken away from BOB). 1-3 Jacksonville has played much better than I thought they would, with two close losses. I'm not sold on the 3-1 Colts yet; let's see how they do in November when they play the Ravens, Packers and Titans twice in a four-week stretch.

AFC West:
A bit surprised that KC has struggled as much as they have (in wins vs the Chargers and Patriots). The Raiders have looked very good so far, but they now play at KC, Tampa, at Browns, at Chargers, Broncos, KC and at Atlanta. It's possible they could be no better than 4-7 or maybe 5-6 - though their December schedule gets much easier.

NFC East:
I wonder if Fox will continue to jam this division down our throats week after week? We knew Washington and NYG would be bad, but Dallas has the NFL's worst offense, and Philadelphia's wide receiving corps is even worse than the Pats, plus their offensive line is a mess. The NFCE could very well set a record for the worst collective won-loss record since the NFL split into four divisions.

NFC North:
I thought the Vikings would win this division, but their defense is atrocious, against both the pass and the run. Detroit is another disappointment; I thought they would improve after going 0-8 in games when Stafford was out with an injury last year. The bigger surprise is 3-1 Chicago, who I had pegged as a last place team that would be in line for a top ten draft pick. I don't think the Bears keep it up though. Every win has been by four points: two against underachievers that find ways to lose (Lions, Falcons), and the other was against the Giants. Let's see what their record is on Dec 1 after they play Tampa, at Carolina, at Rams, Saints, at Titans, Vikings, and at Packers. Green Bay should have an easy path to the division title.

NFC South:
Slight surprise that the 2-2 Panthers have played as well as they have, and that the Falcons are 0-4. The two 40 year old quarterbacks still look good - but have also had a few plays where they are starting to show their age.

NFC West:
Seattle's defense has appeared to be very vulnerable; they are fortunate to be 4-0. I don't know if the Rams have enough on offense to win the division. The Niners have had so many injuries, I don't know if they can catch either LA or Seattle.

With the extra team in the playoffs, could we see two divisions send three teams to the playoffs? In the NFC it is obvious the NFCE will have only one playoff team. It is possible that the third place NFCW team could be better than the second place NFCN team, setting up something like this:

East: one team (Phil/Dallas)
North: Green Bay
South: Bucs/Saints
West: Seattle, Rams, Niners

Similarly, in the AFC:
East: Bills, Pats
North: Ravens, Steelers, Browns
South: Titans
West: Chiefs

The AFC is less likely to happen, with intra-division games likely to hurt Cleveland's chances to the point where the Colts would finish ahead of the Browns.

Excellent analysis. I'd like to look at the AFC more closely by showing the remaining schedules for the nine teams in the hunt right now. I'm listing the team's opponents by tougher/easier

AFCE
Buf (4-0) - KC., NE (2), Sea, Pit, Ten, Ari / NYJ, LAC, SF, Mia, Den
NE (2-2) - Buf (2), Bal, ari, LAR / Den, SF, NYJ (2), Hou, LAC, Mia
NE has a slightly easier schedule but will probably need to sweep the Bills to take the division. IMO that's NE's only chance to make the playoffs.

AFCW
KC (4-1) - Buf, Car, LV, TB, NO / Den (2), NYJ, Atl, Mia, LAC
LV (3-2) - TB, Cle, KC, Ind / LAC (2), Den (2), Atl, NYJ, Mia
With a win over KC and a slighlty easier schedule, they could take the division or take one of the WCs.

AFCN
Pitt (4-0) - Ten, Cle (2), Bal (2), Buf, Ind / Dal, Cin (2), Jac, Was
Bal (4-1) - Pit (2), Ten, Ind, Cle, NE / Dal, Cin (2), Jac, Was
Cle (4-1) - Pit (2), LV, Ten, Bal / Cin, Hou, Phi, Jac, NYJ, NYG
My opinion is that Pitt is a paper tiger. Their opponents' combined record is an astounding 3-15-1. Unless one of the north teams fold during the rest of the season, all three will make the playoffs and the Ratbirds will win the division.

AFCS
Ten (3-0) - Pit, Buf, Chi, Ind (2), Bal, Cle, GB / Hou (2), Cin, Jac, Det
Ind (3-2) - Bal, Ten (2), GB, LV, Pit / Cin, Det, Hou (2), Jac
This will come down to the head to head matchup and I like the Titans if they stay healthy. In either case only one of these teams will make it.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
 
Cleveland might have a clear road to get in.

They get to play both New York teams, Cincy, and Jacksonville down the stretch. Also get Philly and Houston.
Tough to trust Cleveland, but they’re 4-1 and their opportunity is there.
 
Bills have the following stretch:

Titans
Chiefs
Jets
Patriots
Seahawks



Patriots have the following stretch:

Broncos
Bye
49ers
Bills
Jets

So this looks like a chance for the gap in the loss column to close before the Patriots face off against the Ravens in week 10.
With that said, the Bills get to play a Titans team that barely practiced. So even though they are good, that’s probably a win. We already lost to KC and Seattle so the real danger here is that Buffalo can take one of those and beat us. That happens and we are fighting for a wildcard spot
 
With that said, the Bills get to play a Titans team that barely practiced. So even though they are good, that’s probably a win. We already lost to KC and Seattle so the real danger here is that Buffalo can take one of those and beat us. That happens and we are fighting for a wildcard spot
I honestly think Buffalo is built to beat KC.

Could be wrong there but idk. I could see Buffalo going on an absolute year over the next couple months if they pull that one.
 
I honestly think Buffalo is built to beat KC.

Could be wrong there but idk. I could see Buffalo going on an absolute year over the next couple months if they pull that one.
I think so too. They have the QB/offense to compete with Mahomes. More so than Pitt, Ravens, or us. Also, the Browns are interesting too with Mayfield. They would also match up well with KC.
 
I honestly think Buffalo is built to beat KC.

Could be wrong there but idk. I could see Buffalo going on an absolute year over the next couple months if they pull that one.
The Bills win over the Rams was a travesty, the game was over on a 4th down play in the final seconds, and the ref pulled out his flag and gave it to the Bills on a complete joke of a DPI. It makes things tough for us. I'm concerned we could have a very good 10-6 season, even 11-5, and not get in. Brutal schedule including sleepers in Ariz and the Chargers that weren't expected to be tough. We'll at least split with Buffalo, but I'm concerned about the 2nd Miami game. I think we beat Baltimore this year.
 
The Bills win over the Rams was a travesty, the game was over on a 4th down play in the final seconds, and the ref pulled out his flag and gave it to the Bills on a complete joke of a DPI. It makes things tough for us. I'm concerned we could have a very good 10-6 season, even 11-5, and not get in. Brutal schedule including sleepers in Ariz and the Chargers that weren't expected to be tough. We'll at least split with Buffalo, but I'm concerned about the 2nd Miami game. I think we beat Baltimore this year.
We’ll get in at 11-5 thanks to there now being 7 seeds in the playoffs.

Even 10 should likely be enough since historically no 10 win teams would have missed the playoffs over the last decade had there been a 7 seed throughout that time. Although maybe not since the AFC is super competitive this year.

I do think it’ll take 10 to get in though. 9 will not be enough in the AFC this year.
 
I have four locks so far: Pittsburgh, Baltimore, KC, and Buffalo. I don't think Cleveland will make the Playoffs. The rest could go either way.

The Patriots did have the toughest schedule coming into the season and I don't think that has changed. They have a tough stretch of games coming up. After last night, it's Denver, SF, Buffalo, NYJ, and Baltimore before the schedule softens up a little bit. I think they have to go at least 3-2 through these five games if they want a shot at the Playoffs.

Buffalo has Pitt, Seattle, and KC left on their schedule (and LA Chargers). new England's toughest remaining game is Baltimore (and of course Buffalo and New England play each other twice).
 
I honestly think Buffalo is built to beat KC.

Could be wrong there but idk. I could see Buffalo going on an absolute year over the next couple months if they pull that one.

The Chiefs aggressive style of defense vs. arguably the best WR trio in football could be a disaster. Diggs & Brown can both beat you deep too.
 
The Bears are not pushovers.

NE is 0 - 2 vs contenders.
Lol, one of those games they would like have won handily if they had their starting QB and the other came down to a goal line stand. Thats a stupid assessment
 
I'll predict they have just enough firepower to get to 10 wins, but thats about it. I think the bills finish with 11. Whether our 10 wins is enough to secure a spot with the current AFC north landscape is a good question with 4 games to go. Gonna be a tough year.
The Pats will finish with min 12 wins. Book it, and they will sweep the Bills
 


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