Cam Newton already working out with Mohamed Sanu days after signing with Patriots

amfootball said:

The only issues is, you can get it again. There is no proven immunity yet with this virus. This is why I think it is certain that no pro sports will happen this season.

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We'll know a lot more in about 3 weeks, when this current explosion of exposures and infections enters later stages of the disease. As I understand it, most viruses weaken slowly over time, to keep a higher percentage of hosts alive. If we get lucky, C19 will follow that pattern and a lower % will die and there will be fewer long term complications. Under those circumstances, everyone will be more willing to risk catching it.

How the f*** did this turn into a Covid thread?

TheRainMaker said:

How the f*** did this turn into a Covid thread?

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Because people got all worked up when Brady was throwing with teammates but in this thread Cam got commended for throwing to Sanu.

betterthanthealternative said:

We'll know a lot more in about 3 weeks, when this current explosion of exposures and infections enters later stages of the disease. As I understand it, most viruses weaken slowly over time, to keep a higher percentage of hosts alive. If we get lucky, C19 will follow that pattern and a lower % will die and there will be fewer long term complications. Under those circumstances, everyone will be more willing to risk catching it.

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Yeahhhhhhh I am not an authority, but isn't that "slowly weakening" thing when the virus is too virulent to be really infectious? By the way I re-bought PlagueInc. for my iPhone out of boredom and to see how it feels now that we have a pandemic. Great game but a little scarier now.

amfootball said:

The only issues is, you can get it again. There is no proven immunity yet with this virus. This is why I think it is certain that no pro sports will happen this season.

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I was just joking.

amfootball said:

The only issues is, you can get it again. There is no proven immunity yet with this virus. This is why I think it is certain that no pro sports will happen this season.

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These type of posts are so misleading I am not sure what the intent is. Chickenpox can reoccur - it is called Shingles. Will there ever be definitive proof COVID-19 will not reoccur? No. After recovering from almost all viral infections is there a greatly improved chance of immunity? Yes.

People in S Korea who had COVID were thought to be re-infected. This was widely reported. Come to find out the S Korean tests that were rolled out rapidly were not reliable and produced a lot of false positives. And the S Korean study showed the people thought to be re-infected were not. KCDC. The retraction of the mis-reporting from S Korea was not widely reported.

I wear a mask. I take COBID-19 seriously. But there is no evidence that COVID is unlike all other Corona viruses, or all other viruses for that matter - once you get it you are unlikely to get it again, and if you do the second infection is lighter than the first.

Are there clinical studies that show "proven immunity" after recovery? No. And, most likely, there never will be. Viruses vary, studies never completely define them, but we need to go back to living our lives without the fearmongering.

betterthanthealternative said:

This is fine if they got tested recently and otherwise are limiting their exposures.

The bigger issue is celebrities and rich folks getting access to tests, just because they want to lead their lives, where the rest of us have to either wait in line with a bunch of other potentially infected people, or get an MD order. I know, I know, that's the way of the world, but in a pandemic, I can still be pissed about it.

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You have to wait in line? I scheduled mine without a prescription, same day, at a drive through test site. Didn't even get out of my car

Joker said:

where'd you get this "test", Wal-Mart quik lane? The proper test is the swab, inserted all the way up the nasal cavity and then turned four times, followed by the the same procedure on the other side. It IS uncomfortable and irritating. Stop trying to put others below your superior "manliness" for whatever idiotic subtext you're propagating today.

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I got the proper test, it wasn't bad at all. Don't know what you're on about

One-If-By-Sea said:

These type of posts are so misleading I am not sure what the intent is. Chickenpox can reoccur - it is called Shingles. Will there ever be definitive proof COVID-19 will not reoccur? No. After recovering from almost all viral infections is there a greatly improved chance of immunity? Yes.

People in S Korea who had COVID were thought to be re-infected. This was widely reported. Come to find out the S Korean tests that were rolled out rapidly were not reliable and produced a lot of false positives. And the S Korean study showed the people thought to be re-infected were not. KCDC. The retraction of the mis-reporting from S Korea was not widely reported.

I wear a mask. I take COBID-19 seriously. But there is no evidence that COVID is unlike all other Corona viruses, or all other viruses for that matter - once you get it you are unlikely to get it again, and if you do the second infection is lighter than the first.

Are there clinical studies that show "proven immunity" after recovery? No. And, most likely, there never will be. Viruses vary, studies never completely define them, but we need to go back to living our lives without the fearmongering.

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There is ancedotal evidence everywhere from people getting reinfected and the second infection being much worse than the first. You are right that there are no conclusive studies yet as we are still early on but there is no way to predict what the virus will do.

PatsFanInVa said:

Yeahhhhhhh I am not an authority, but isn't that "slowly weakening" thing when the virus is too virulent to be really infectious? By the way I re-bought PlagueInc. for my iPhone out of boredom and to see how it feels now that we have a pandemic. Great game but a little scarier now.

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From what I've read, viruses will often evolve to a weaken version of themselves, with the effect being that more hosts will survive them, and be less sick while they have them, and then there are more hosts running around spreading them.

betterthanthealternative said:

Thanks. Yes, both wife and I had an illness that didn't match the most common COVID symptoms, but did match some of the lesser ones. Using video, the doc said he was 85% sure it was something else, but it was still important to get tested. So we did.

Negative result, which was good (I think? Part of me wants to have gotten COVID, if it was a week of inconvenience and misery, but not damaging.)

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If you had it you wouldn’t catch it again, would have developed some long term immunity and wouldn’t worry about the slight chance you would get really sick and maybe even die from it if you caught it again, so no, it isn’t a good thing you didn’t have it and survived.

amfootball said:

There is ancedotal evidence everywhere from people getting reinfected and the second infection being much worse than the first. You are right that there are no conclusive studies yet as we are still early on but there is no way to predict what the virus will do.

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This is wrong. There were a few cases in South Korea that turned up positive a second time. Those cases were found to be the inability of the original tests to determine between live viruses and dead viruses. Since proven to be incorrect. The only anecdotal evidence is from the news media hoping to make things worse.

Don’t you think just maybe if this was actually happening that the cdc or even Dr Faucci might mention it?

Maine now has at least one place where you drive up, show your insurance card and get tested for free. Not many people using it but it is an option.

betterthanthealternative said:

From what I've read, viruses will often evolve to a weaken version of themselves, with the effect being that more hosts will survive them, and be less sick while they have them, and then there are more hosts running around spreading them.

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I know, I just read this in connection more with viruses that don't have the advantage of asymptomatic spread, a majority with weaker symptoms, etc. It's already got all those people as vectors (more concentrated among the young than the old.)

So the evolutionary pressure isn't there - sure the mutation could randomly occur, but it would not out-compete the version that kills some people (because the latter also spreads easily in others whom it doesn't kill)

Virus don't care if it does lifelong damage to the people who are sluggish for a month then "get better" (but unknown to themselves, have organ damage that will perhaps haunt them for a shortened lifespan)

I have read here a couple times about weakening viruses, and not many other places. I think a couple things go on. As more people catch it more people develop some or total Immunity. The people most at risk catch it and develop immunity or die. We develop tests and medicines to help with treatment and spread which minimize the disease’s effects. People get tired of reading about it stop paying attention and the media stops writing articles about it and we go back to life.

I have not seen one actual scientific study, or even actual case other than the since debunked Korean study that has shown people being infected a second time.

Deus Irae said:

Cam Newton already working out with Mohamed Sanu days after signing with Patriots


This is bad, right?

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I just hope he's insured! But hopefully Cam can bring it this upcoming season. He's getting a head start!

PatsDeb said:

If the numbers don't go down, none. It's a dumb move in both instances.

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So no football this year?

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