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amfootball said:

Cam has five losing seasons out of nine and last year he was 0-2 before going on IR so that makes 3 winning seasons out of 9. He is hardly synonymous with winning.

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woolster22 said:

I guess a scum bag elitist prick of an owner (in practice, idgaf what the pr team puts together for him) doesn't stop you?

Due process and procedural legalities only matter if your family has generational wealth to throw at a legal team, right?

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Kasmir said:

Except that he had the best preseason of any Patriots first year QB under Belichick -- and a far better preseason than Mallett ever had.

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amfootball said:

Cam has five losing seasons out of nine and last year he was 0-2 before going on IR so that makes 3 winning seasons out of 9. He is hardly synonymous with winning.

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Hyped said:

- Other than CMC during the 2018 season, Cam Newton has never had a 100 reception receiver (Edelman had 100 last year as the sole option most of the time).

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Hyped said:

Some rough Cam Newton team stats I researched this morning:

2011: Steve Smith: 79 rec, 1,394 yards (Stewart and Olsen had 47 & 45 recs)
Leading rushers: DeAngelo Williams with 836 yards, Jonathan Stewart with 761 yards, and Cam Newton with 706 yards.
Football Outsiders OL Ranking For Run Blocking & Pass Protection: #5 and #21.
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2012: Steve Smith: 73 rec, 1,174 yards (Olsen and LaFell had 69 & 44 recs)
Leading rushers: Cam Newton with 741 yards and DeAngelo Williams with 737.
Football Outsiders OL Ranking For Run Blocking & Pass Protection: #30 and #21.
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2013: Greg Olsen: 73 rec, 816 yards (Smith and LaFell had 64 & 49 recs)
Leading rushers: DeAngelo Williams with 843 yards and Cam Newton with 585 yards.
Football Outsiders OL Ranking For Run Blocking & Pass Protection: #14 and #25.
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2014: Greg Olsen: 84 rec, 1,008 yards (Kelvin Benjamin and Cotchery had 73 & 48 recs)
Leading rushers: Jonathan Stewart with 809 yards and Cam Newton with 539.
Football Outsiders OL Ranking For Run Blocking & Pass Protection: #27 and #22.
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2015: Greg Olsen: 77 rec, 1,104 yards (Ginn Jr. and Cotchery had 44 & 39 recs)
Leading rushers: Jonathan Stewart with 989 yards and Cam Newton with 636.
Football Outsiders OL Ranking For Run Blocking & Pass Protection: #12 and #21.
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2016: Greg Olsen: 80 rec, 1,073 yards (Benjamin and Ginn Jr. had 63 and 54 recs)
Leading rushers: Jonathan Stewart with 824 yards and Cam Newton with 359.
Football Outsiders OL Ranking For Run Blocking & Pass Protection: #25 and #19.
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2017: Christian McCaffrey: 80 rec, 651 yards (Funchess and Benjamin* had 63 and 32 recs) *KB played only 8 games.
Leading rushers: Cam Newton with 754, Jonathan Stewart with 680, and Christian McCaffery with 435.
Football Outsiders OL Ranking For Run Blocking & Pass Protection: #25 and #19.
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2018: Christian McCaffrey: 107 rec, 867 yards (D.J. Moore and Funchess had 55 & 44 recs)
Leading rushers: Christian McCaffery witih 1,098 yards and Cam Newton* with 488 yards.
Football Outsiders OL Ranking For Run Blocking & Pass Protection: #11 and #10.
*Cam missed 2 games.
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2019: Christian McCaffrey: 116 rec, 1,005 yards (Moore and Chris Samule had 87 and 54 recs)
Leading rusher: Chrisitan McCaffery with 1,387 yards (nobody else* over 130 yards total).
Football Outsiders OL Ranking For Run Blocking & Pass Protection: #17 and #29.
*Cam missed 14 games.
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2019 Patriots Comparison:

9th best run blocking OL and 5th best pass protecting OL per Football Outsiders.

2019 Patriots Leading Rushers: Sony Michel with 912 yards, Rex Burkhead with 302 yards, and James White with 263 yards.

2019 Patriots Leading Receivers: Julian Edelman with 100 rec and 1,117 yards and James White with 72 rec and 645 yards (nobody else had more than 29 recs by Dorsett).

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Conclusions I am drawing (or pulling outta my arse):

- Relative to the 2019 Patriots' OL, Cam Newton has never had a better offensive line to operate behind in the NFL.

- Other than CMC during the 2018 season, Cam Newton has never had a 100 reception receiver (Edelman had 100 last year as the sole option most of the time).

- Other than CMC during the 2018 season, Cam Newton has never had a RB catch more than 70 passes (James White had 72 receptions last year as the obvious passing down back and option #2).

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TheRainMaker said:

Has the board come to acceptance yet that Cam will be the Pats week 1 starter?

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sb1 said:

All last season we heard the excuses for the terrible QB play as a lack of weapons.

Didn’t stop Cam from going to the SB with even worse weapons. Like throwing to the shell of Jerricho Cotchery.

Huh. A QB figures out what to do with what he has. Weird.

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FreeTedWilliams said:

Thanks for your input, Adolf

can we get back to football now?

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PatsFanInVa said:

please?

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woolster22 said:

Dubious distinction, given Kraft is the player's employer, and team success quite obviously translates to success for Kraft far more directly than team success equates to individual player success.

If you dropped the second "m" from your handle, it would atleast provide us some warning.

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203Pat said:

Because if there is anyone whoever knows what they're doing it's the other AFC East coaches.

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TheRainMaker said:

Has the board come to acceptance yet that Cam will be the Pats week 1 starter?

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Ice_Ice_Brady said:

Give into the hate and join us.

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