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Must have been miserable since 94 when Kraft bought the Pats
This fine is on Kraft and his back office which was the reason for my comment. Sorry that I don't kiss Bob's rings at every turn..
 
Had they signed Kaepernick no one would've noticed the penalty.
 
The penalty itself can not be surprising to anyone on this board.
While its true that the film gave no competitive advantage whatsoever

BB admitted they they broke a rule AND
they had previous infraction(s).
They were not going to get away scot free.

The third rounder stings however, especially if its a high third rounder.

This one is on Kraft and Bill. It was mistake that never should have happened.

How is it on Bill? He literally had NOTHING to do with it at all.
 
How is it on Bill? He literally had NOTHING to do with it at all.

Bingo. Since this has absolutely zero to do with football ops if anyone wants to blame someone they better start at whichever Kraft is indirectly responsible for those contractors.
 
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Such BS ! I hate the league and that clown. They have nothing better to do than impose fines for a minor infractions. If I didn't enjoy football so much , i would have stopped watching a longer time ago because of crap like this.
 
Sadly it is deserved for stupidity alone.


Dumb, and deserved. Anyone drawing a check from Kraft, Kraft Sports, The Patriots or whatever arm on Rte 1 in Foxboro should know this.
 
F the NFL. We will just have to lean on our comp picks then....

So, the running tally now is: 1st (BB in 2000), 1st (Spygate in 2007), 1st (Deflategate in 2014), and 3rd (Dumb ass vid guy in 2019).
 
I guess people are still going to watch football this year? Seems like you’d have to really hate yourself to do that.
 
What does cheating even mean at this point ?

Multiple teams have been caught violating the CBA when it comes to practice times, contact and how much they can practice in full equipment. That's clearly giving them an advantage over other teams but nobody cares.

Teams have been violating the unallowed tech equipment rule on the sideline/boxes that might give them an advantage over other teams during the game. Nobody cared.

Teams have been over and underinflating footballs, purposefully building stadiums where the opponents have their sideline in the open sun or using non-allowed substances on their equipment and really nobody cared except that one time where thermodynamics were the actual culprit.

Teams have been trying to steal and decipher signs for decades. Nobody cared except the one time where a team had their video guy standing in the wrong place.

Others are abusing holes in the rules to let the time run down in their favor.

To me the only thing in recent years that ever rose to the level of actual "cheating" was Tomlin's tripping adventure. At least that is the only thing I can think of.

Everything else is just business as usual where everyone tries to find an edge.

The frustrating thing about this is that Schefter, who is pretty reliable with league information, believes that the Patriots' penalty was due to their history:



As you pointed out, "nobody cares" when other teams violate the rules. I saw a tweet about this last night, but, since 2007 (when the Patriots "history" started), the Steelers have the following scandals/violations:

  • Team doctor busted by the Feds for PED distribution
  • Fined for faking injuries
  • Tomlin interfering with play on the field
  • A type of bounty/reimbursement system that James Harrison recently talked about
  • Deflated footballs, twice

There are probably more, but all of these have disappeared from people's memories. Even in the cases where the league did issue a fine, no one remembers them and they don't represent a pattern of behavior. You can come up with a similar list for teams like the Jets, Ravens and Seahawks, but they all avoid having "a history."
 
F the NFL. We will just have to lean on our comp picks then....

So, the running tally now is: 1st (BB in 2000), 1st (Spygate in 2007), 1st (Deflategate in 2014), and 3rd (Dumb ass vid guy in 2019).
Don't forget a 2017 4th as well...
 
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It's funny, everyone on the internet is saying we got off easy. Everyone here says the opposite.
 
So, basically, the Pats need to get everything right 100% of the time even when a supposed infraction wasn't by the football ops part of their organization. No wiggle room for honest mistakes. Good to know.
Patriots penalized for encroaching opponent's area during 2021 game with Bills
by AP/WKRC

Sunday, June 26th 2022

NEW YORK (AP/WKRC) — The New England Patriots have been fined $1.4 million by the NFL for inappropriately entering the visitor's area in the stands during a game last season.

On Sunday, the league also took away a second-round pick in the 2023 draft.

Also, the team's stadium vendors will not be allowed to sell any food or beverages in the stands during games in the 2022 season.

ESPN first reported the penalties. An NFL spokesman confirmed the discipline to The Associated Press.

The infraction occurred at the Bills game in Foxborough on Dec. 12 of last season. The Patriots defeated the Bills, 27-21 to clinch the AFC East Division.

When incident became known last season, the team said at the time a stadium employee selling Pepsi to spectators “inadvertently stepped into the secure area where only the visiting team's employees and family members sit" during games at Gillette Stadium.

The behavior took place “without specific knowledge of league rules,” the statement said.

Also, the team's statement last season said that while they have been selling refreshments ever since opening in Foxborough in 1971, “our failure to inform the boy was an unintended oversight.”

When confronted, the team said the male vendor “immediately turned over all his soda and money to the league and cooperated fully.”

At the time, Patriots coach Bill Belichick says neither he nor his coaching staff had any contact with anyone in the reserved area, or drank any Pepsi.

“I personally have never seen anyone there at all, or drank Pepsi, other than what’s served in the locker room or something like that,” Belichick said in December.

Previously, New England was fined $250,000 and lost a first-round draft pick in 2007 for doing something perfectly legal only from what the NFL decided was an 'unauthorized location' in a fake scandal accurately deemed “CryGate.” Belichick was also fined $500,000.

CryGate fueled a distrust of the Patriots that persisted when the team was accused of illegally deflating the footballs used in the 2015 AFC championship game.

The punishment by the NFL in that case was also severe, despite the physiological impossibility that the Patriots ever did anything, and voluminous evidence of conspiracy and prejudice in collaboration between opponents and the league, and brazen lies buy the league in court. Quarterback Tom Brady was suspended four games, and the team was fined $1 million and docked another first-round draft pick in what is accurately deemed "DefameGate".

AP Pro Football Writer Actual Pats Fan contributed to this report.
 
Now compare a team like the Broncos who were caught paying both Terrel Davis and John Elway millions under the table to circumvent the salary cap and win back to back superbowls and their punishment??.... A 2nd round pick
Paul "The Patriots damaged the league" Tagliabue slapped them on the wrist and virtually nobody knows about it.
 
The frustrating thing about this is that Schefter, who is pretty reliable with league information, believes that the Patriots' penalty was due to their history:



As you pointed out, "nobody cares" when other teams violate the rules. I saw a tweet about this last night, but, since 2007 (when the Patriots "history" started), the Steelers have the following scandals/violations:

  • Team doctor busted by the Feds for PED distribution
  • Fined for faking injuries
  • Tomlin interfering with play on the field
  • A type of bounty/reimbursement system that James Harrison recently talked about
  • Deflated footballs, twice

There are probably more, but all of these have disappeared from people's memories. Even in the cases where the league did issue a fine, no one remembers them and they don't represent a pattern of behavior. You can come up with a similar list for teams like the Jets, Ravens and Seahawks, but they all avoid having "a history."


well it's a good thing the patriots play in new england cuz anything they do brings out the snowflakes.
 
I actually figured we’d lose a 1st
 
I’m angry about it just as I was the other “scandals”...especially because it was the Bungles in this case....worst team in league....Bill didn’t need any tape on them or Browns.....utter BS..

but because of the Crazed Mob that is every fan and employee of every other team than NE calling for death and destruction .... I was content with timing of verdict and what we had to give up......it could have been worse like a 1 or 2....but I think godell knew it wasn’t intentional....but still had to appease the raving “losers”!!!

As per Schefter:

$1.1 million in club fines.
Loss of 2021 third-round pick.
Patriots’ TV crews not allowed to shoot games during 2020 season.

A very slow day just got very busy!!!
 
Feel same way....it sucks...but they had camera pointed where they shouldn’t....not legal...so the sore a** fans/personnel from every other team are going to make sure Godell gets their pound of flesh....it sucks but it could have been worse...and it has been buried now with news of cam signing....

on to the season....fck all these sore a**ed scumbag lowlife fans of all these loser teams....LETS GO PATS!!


The penalty itself can not be surprising to anyone on this board.
While its true that the film gave no competitive advantage whatsoever

BB admitted they they broke a rule AND
they had previous infraction(s).
They were not going to get away scot free.

The third rounder stings however, especially if its a high third rounder.

This one is on Kraft and Bill. It was mistake that never should have happened.
 
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