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Cautious, optimistic, hopeful are a few words that come to mind. With the right coaching this just might work out gloriously.

A Defiant Goose said:

I swear I am not giving him the benefit of the doubt on this play because he's a Pat; more that I've seen the play a handful more times recently now that he is one.

The SB 50 fumble he shied away from. Is there any chance he thought "Actually, it looks like the ball is going to get one more hop in the other direction, and if it doesn't Ware has me beat anyway so maybe I'll try and just get the jump on the next hop"? But Ware got to it before the next hop? That's the only thing other than being a coward I could think of went through his head. Has he actually explained what went thru his head there?

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Newton choked big time in the super bowl. Not only the fumble, but many other plays.

Manning was done in that game and the Broncos beatable.

Biffins said:

BB is applying his “throw **** at wall and see what sticks” WR strategy of last several years to QB now. Except that has spectacularly failed for WRs. And will fail for QBs too. Instead of all the vet min contracts that we have to abandon and take cap hits when we cut people, perhaps we should have offered Brady more than the $23m we did and gotten that over the line.

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he has brought in exactly 1 QB in the last 20 years to compete for a starting job and you equate that to "throwing ****at wall and see if it sticks strategy" ok. This is a win win. If Stidham wins the job, then we have our QB of the future. If not, he sits another year and learns. If Cam wins the job, then we are a playoff team during a year when everyone was calling it a rebuild. This is a great low cost move

Triumph said:

Newton choked big time in the super bowl. Not only the fumble, but many other plays.

Manning was done in that game and the Broncos beatable.

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Belichick wasn’t his coach back then...

stcjones said:

Moron alert

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Right here in this thread have a guy anticipating that he will kneel for the anthem and calling him a traitor. Nobody besides me even felt it was worth a disagree. You do the math.

Triumph said:

It destroys Stidhams rookie season.

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Stidham has the same avenue he had a week ago to become starter. Beat his competitors during camp. The only thing that happened is that the level of competition got raised without investing any major resources.

Yeah his margin of error became smaller which is a good thing. If he can't handle pressure of this then he is currently not a NFL level QB.

bobbutts said:

Right here in this thread have a guy anticipating that he will kneel for the anthem and calling him a traitor. Nobody besides me even felt it was worth a disagree. You do the math.

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Most probably because those looney bozos have landed on many ignore lists by now.

Triumph said:

Yeah, against a retread QB instead of wanting to see Stidham in action to have a sense if QB is a priority in the 2021 draft.

This is the same way that the Broncoss played musical QBs trying to replace Elway.

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Stidham's rookie year was last year.

Funny I don't recall the Bronco's going with someone who won an MVP to start the musical qbs post Elway but when they finally got a former MVP after Elway it did work out.

UptownPatsFan said:

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Newton is NOT an accurate passer. 1 season in his career did he reach a 66% completion percentage. Bradys baseline was a consistent 66% completion range which is why Brady was so successful in todays passing NFL. Newton likes the INTs and sacks.

Cam Newton Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

At Newtons age he does not need to be running around playing Lamar Jackson. Newton will be forced to stay in the pocket and pass which almost always never works out because he is used to running when the walls close in.

Ok so I recognize I am a Pats apologist. I wanted no part of this guy, and now he's here on a team friendly deal and I am all like "ok, so let's see how he does." At least I recognize that flaw in me.

Ok... so my take... It's a low risk, super high reward signing. Short money. I am interested to see how he adapts to Bill and the Pats. Not much down side.

Ras-IR Dowling said:

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He cannot throw the effing ball and catch the effing ball at the same time.

Steve:Section 102 said:

Ok so I recognize I am a Pats apologist. I wanted no part of this guy, and now he's here on a team friendly deal and I am all like "ok, so let's see how he does." At least I recognize that flaw in me.

Ok... so my take... It's a low risk, super high reward signing. Short money. I am interested to see how he adapts to Bill and the Pats. Not much down side.

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Sometimes one needs to use new information when provided and not be too stubborn to change an opinion.

Triumph said:

Newton choked big time in the super bowl. Not only the fumble, but many other plays.

Manning was done in that game and the Broncos beatable.

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You do realize he had nearly the same stat line that Tom Brady had against the same defense two weeks prior

signbabybrady said:

Sometimes one needs to use new information when provided and not be too stubborn to change an opinion.

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Well, I am not above admitting I didn't want him. I think he's selfish, me first kinda player. But... If Bill thinks he can coach him up, I am willing to see how it goes.

super-excited for it to work, and you guys I can't help it, but if he actually wears the continental bluecoat I'm calling him Camilton

PatsFanInVa said:

He cannot throw the effing ball and catch the effing ball at the same time.

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Ok Giselle.

BB is not infallible.

Just look at last seasons WR and TE corp. The 2018 group was subpar and was not fixed in the 2019 offseason. Brady had nobody.

You better not be trailing entering the 4th qtr vs:

Cam Newton

Joe Thuney
David Andrews
Shaq Mason

Triumph said:

Newton is NOT an accurate passer. 1 season in his career did he reach a 66% completion percentage. Bradys baseline was a consistent 66% completion range which is why Brady was so successful in todays passing NFL. Newton likes the INTs and sacks.

Cam Newton Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

At Newtons age he does not need to be running around playing Lamar Jackson. Newton will be forced to stay in the pocket and pass which almost always never works out because he is used to running when the walls close in.

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Brady's baseline was more like 61-62% completion percentage, especially early on in his career and again in 2019. On the other hand, Newton's CEILING is about 60%. So if Newton has a good year he's basically Brady in a bad year, which is not bad at all TBH.

Triumph said:

BB is not infallible.

Just look at last seasons WR and TE corp. The 2018 group was subpar and was not fixed in the 2019 offseason. Brady had nobody.

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Bill went into the season drafting Harry, with Gordon, Edelman. Then he later signed Sanu and Brown.

Harry was IR’d rookie year and missed crucial development time.

Gordon was hurt, cut and suspended

Brown went crazy and is still not signed.

Edelman got injured and required surgery.

Sanu came to a new team and almost got an injury he required surgery for.

This idea they Belichick is at fault for 2018 is kinda silly. A bunch of unfortunate **** happened to what looked like one of the best WR’s corps in the league in the first few weeks.

Then in 2019 a run in the draft at WR happened right before the Pats and the last good one was taken a pick before them. Then we got two of the higher quality TE’s in the draft. We were strapped for cap and couldn’t make many moves in free agency.

Again given the situation the biggest change is Belichick maybe trades up for a WR