OT: So Jetsy: Jamal Adams Demands a Trade

NFL rumors: Add Tom Brady's Buccaneers to Jamal Adams' preferred trade destinations

Wow, if the Bucs get Adams it'll help their secondary big time, which is a weak spot for them. He'd reunite with Todd Bowles. And I can see the Jete trade him there to help Brady just to spite NE.

Brewskies said:

Good for him demanding a trade, it isnt going to happen unless he starts doing stuff like not showing up for pre-season.

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Heard today that he wants to be paid the most of any Jete which would mean $17MM/year. For a safety. He's nuts.

The Jete are stuck in a mess of their own making.

One-If-By-Sea said:

Adams is under contract for 2 more years and an option for a third (his 5th season in the league). If the Jets start paying every player that demands a new contract 2 or 3 years early that will also lead to a disasterous situation. Tough spot for the Jets with a prima dona in the locker room. What if Stid has a great year and will not come back unless he gets a new contract? You would want the Pats to pay him 2+ years early? Can't start doing that even for the QB, and especially not for a safety.

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In other words, there's no easy way out.

He's entering year four and as a 1st rounder the Jete have picked up the fifth year option which pays $9.6MM which you would think is good coin but Adams doesn't. He's trying to set precedents by renegotiating going in to year four and by resetting the market for safety, yet the Jete have full control for this season and next then a potential franchise tag after that.

Now any of the other teams know he's unhappy so the Jets have lost bargaining power. The other teams now know he's going to be a problem for the Jete to manage, and at some point they very well may just decide it's not worth the hassle.

To me it never made sense to put so much draft capital into a safety because the positional value just isn't there to begin with and when da Jete have so many glaring needs that could have been addressed in that slot. If there wasn't a game changing OL or CB in that slot, someone else probably wanted Adams enough to offer good value to trade down.

This situation is a great illustration of why BB trades down so much. Wouldn't it have been better to have 2 second rounders with similar talent levels yet without the built in expectations of making huge money?

Da Jete have been highlighting him as a team leader and using him in PR material since they've got no one else worth promoting including Jughead Darnit. That of course gave him expectations of being paid like a team leader. So many dumb moves by da Jete.

TinhWoodhead said:

JLM? (jets lives matter)

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Well, no.

Bill Lee said:

If there wasn't a game changing OL or CB in that slot, someone else probably wanted Adams enough to offer good value to trade down.
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If they couldn’t find someone to trade down with, maybe they could have drafted <checks notes> Pat Mahomes or Deshaun Watson.

TommyBrady12 said:

NFL rumors: Add Tom Brady's Buccaneers to Jamal Adams' preferred trade destinations

Wow, if the Bucs get Adams it'll help their secondary big time, which is a weak spot for them. He'd reunite with Todd Bowles. And I can see the Jete trade him there to help Brady just to spite NE.

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The Jete would be fools to trade Adams now. So yeah, there's a good chance that they will.

I can't forget a convo a had with a jets fan after they got Darnold. He was so excited and pumped but I tried to caution him about how landing spot matters so much. The NYJ are just a mess. Sam was a great prospect. Absolutely nothing around him in terms of targets and OL. Coaching staff tried pushing a X in a O. Didn't play to his strengths.

And now they're losing their best defensive player. Still on his rookie deal after taking him top 5. Honestly you can't make this up. Those are cornerstone picks. Or supposed to be.

Sam will be next, hopefully. Such a mess.

BaconGrundleCandy said:

I can't forget a convo a had with a jets fan after they got Darnold. He was so excited and pumped but I tried to caution him about how landing spot matters so much. The NYJ are just a mess. Sam was a great prospect. Absolutely nothing around him in terms of targets and OL. Coaching staff tried pushing a X in a O. Didn't play to his strengths.

And now they're losing their best defensive player. Still on his rookie deal after taking him top 5. Honestly you can't make this up. Those are cornerstone picks. Or supposed to be.

Sam will be next, hopefully. Such a mess.

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And this comes less than a year after Leonard Williams forced himself out of town (well, same town, but out of conference). That's the two best defensive players demanding a trade in a year's time.

Tells you what kind of coach Adam Gase is.

One-If-By-Sea said:

Adams is under contract for 2 more years and an option for a third (his 5th season in the league). If the Jets start paying every player that demands a new contract 2 or 3 years early that will also lead to a disasterous situation. Tough spot for the Jets with a prima dona in the locker room. What if Stid has a great year and will not come back unless he gets a new contract? You would want the Pats to pay him 2+ years early? Can't start doing that even for the QB, and especially not for a safety.

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You don’t have an option. If he plays well, what do you do if he does that? Franchise QB’s don’t grow on trees

Patriot Missile said:

So Seymour or Wilfork should of done that too? Sorry but 2 years is 1 year too early. I’m sure he’s getting paid but give them a chance to lock him up long term in the final year of his deal. It’s not like he is a franchise qb. He’s just a safety.

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I have sympathy for guys forced/drafted into bad situations. The very idea of a draft is one of the most unfair, anti-competitive things out there. If the Jets exercise their option year (which they did) plus a franchise year, they get to control him for 6 years. Not fair and not his fault.

One-If-By-Sea said:

Adams is under contract for 2 more years and an option for a third (his 5th season in the league). If the Jets start paying every player that demands a new contract 2 or 3 years early that will also lead to a disasterous situation. Tough spot for the Jets with a prima dona in the locker room. What if Stid has a great year and will not come back unless he gets a new contract? You would want the Pats to pay him 2+ years early? Can't start doing that even for the QB, and especially not for a safety.

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Adams has 3 years under his belt and the option has already been exercised. So he has 2 years left but that includes the 5th year option.

Stidham is not eligible to get a new contract after the 2020 season.

lancerman said:

You don’t have an option. If he plays well, what do you do if he does that? Franchise QB’s don’t grow on trees

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Of course you have an option. Never give in to threats. It is a team sport - not one guy. Make him play out his contract, get your 3rd round compensation pick, and move on.

And when drafting consider the player's personality, not just the talent level, so you pick team players. "Team attitude" is considered by the Pats when drafting but that is lost on this board.

One-If-By-Sea said:

Of course you have an option. Never give in to threats. It is a team sport - not one guy. Make him play out his contract, get your 3rd round compensation pick, and move on.

And when drafting consider the player's personality, not just the talent level, so you pick team players. "Team attitude" is considered by the Pats when drafting but that is lost on this board.

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Patriots have had their share of contract disputes through the years. They are arguably having one right now.

One-If-By-Sea said:

Of course you have an option. Never give in to threats. It is a team sport - not one guy. Make him play out his contract, get your 3rd round compensation pick, and move on.

And when drafting consider the player's personality, not just the talent level, so you pick team players. "Team attitude" is considered by the Pats when drafting but that is lost on this board.

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I agree but I also cut the player some slack if he outperforms his rookie deal. Defintely ok with him ripping up the contract of his final year, just not 2 years too early.

Give Kraft A Hand said:

Not that the Pats need him but I highly doubt you're going to see the Pats on these kind of lists going forward. Good culture with all the teams other than the Texans and maybe the Cowboys however Adams is a TX guy so that's probably why.

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You will definitely see the Patriots on those lists next season after they unload the dead cap hit from TFB, Antonio Brown, Gostkowski, Gordon, etc.

lancerman said:

You don’t have an option. If he plays well, what do you do if he does that? Franchise QB’s don’t grow on trees

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If Stidham is a franchise QB, and I hope he is, the Patriots are in excellent financial position to extend him after this season at a cap friendly base salary with a big signing bonus spread out over 3 or 4 years plus some outlandish performance incentives.

The biggest question mark for post 2020 is the salary cap. The NFL is staring at losing 25% of its revenues from the COVID-19 pandemic. Local revenues will take a hit more in places like New England that does very well at the gate, on concessions and related Patriot Place revenues.

A player like Stidham with no leverage going into 2021, would jump at a chance at an extension with big upfront money. Unless a treatment or vaccine appears this fall, the economics of the NFL will be drastically altered.

Jamal Adams demanding to be traded to be the highest paid DB in the league is idiotic under these circumstances. First, he's under contract and the Jets have no incentive to do a thing. Second, no team is going to commit the kind of money being mentioned until they know what their next few years of revenue looks like.

stinkypete said:

And this comes less than a year after Leonard Williams forced himself out of town (well, same town, but out of conference). That's the two best defensive players demanding a trade in a year's time.

Tells you what kind of coach Adam Gase is.

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I can't understand how anyone would let Gase lead their team. Guy is joke. Such a mess.

UptownPatsFan said:

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If he were on the '07 Pats I betcha he comes down with the INT that slipped through the Miami Stomper's greasy fingers...so does Eric Weddle...

BaconGrundleCandy said:

I can't forget a convo a had with a jets fan after they got Darnold. He was so excited and pumped but I tried to caution him about how landing spot matters so much. The NYJ are just a mess. Sam was a great prospect. Absolutely nothing around him in terms of targets and OL. Coaching staff tried pushing a X in a O. Didn't play to his strengths.

And now they're losing their best defensive player. Still on his rookie deal after taking him top 5. Honestly you can't make this up. Those are cornerstone picks. Or supposed to be.

Sam will be next, hopefully. Such a mess.

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Good job admitting you talk to Jete fans, confession is good for the soul.

XLIX said:

Patriots have had their share of contract disputes through the years. They are arguably having one right now.

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Reading people's intentions is not a perfect science, and people's intentions change over time.

I can't help but think Adams is being influenced directly or indirectly by seeing how Bell got paid.

It leads to the logic "Bell got paid, we got enough money, pay me or Jerrah will".

Bill Lee said:

Good job admitting you talk to Jete fans, confession is good for the soul.


Reading people's intentions is not a perfect science, and people's intentions change over time.

I can't help but think Adams is being influenced directly or indirectly by seeing how Bell got paid.

It leads to the logic "Bell got paid, we got enough money, pay me or Jerrah will".

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Entitled Pats fans are the worst group by far.

Real NYJ fans aren't bad. They understand how putrid their franchise is. Bills & Colts are worse imo.

Especially when talking about real FO-organization. No one I dislike more than the Colts. Them and Balt ****ed with us more than anyone else imo.

Not saying jets didn't but both Balty & Indy went out of their way to try to **** us.