E!SPN new Deflategate article

Ice_Ice_Brady · Jan 27, 2020

borisman said:
Here's a couple of quotes from a recent trial where Ted Wells is lawyer for Exxon:

“The reputations of a lot of good people have been disparaged by the bringing of this complaint,” Wells said, according to Courtroom View Network’s webcast of the closing arguments.

“The theory of the case has not been supported by the evidence,” he said.

Looks like he learned a lot from the deflategate saga.

Here's the link to the case, if any cares to read it:NY Judge Hears Closings In $1B+ Exxon Climate Change Trial, State Drops Key Claims

After all, Wells is now an "expert" on climate change.

What a shady fck. Can’t believe he isn’t in a high government position yet.

MagicMarker · Jan 28, 2020

Ice_Ice_Brady said:
What a shady fck. Can’t believe he isn’t in a high government position yet.

Wells is an advocate. He was hired by the NFL to find Brady guilty and he did. If the NFL wanted him to investigate and follow wherever the evidence took him, I think we'd have seen an entirely different result

Ice_Ice_Brady · Jan 28, 2020

MagicMarker said:
Wells is an advocate. He was hired by the NFL to find Brady guilty and he did. If the NFL wanted him to investigate and follow wherever the evidence took him, I think we'd have seen an entirely different result

That’s a given and changes nothing about the way I view him.

Joker · Jan 29, 2020

MagicMarker said:
Wells is an advocate. He was hired by the NFL to find Brady guilty and he did. If the NFL wanted him to investigate and follow wherever the evidence took him, I think we'd have seen an entirely different result

he didn't find Brady guilty...Goodell did...then Berman overturned Goodell's case in federal district court whereupon Goodell spent another 10 million dollars of OUR FAN MONEY, twenty million in all to get his handpicked catspaw judge, Denny Chin to rule that Goodell can NEVER EVER be questioned on any decision because....Article 46. Goodell shyt on Brady, Kraft, the entire team, head coach and US!! He shyt on us and I for one will never ever forget WHAT he did, WHY he did it and HOW he thinks he's above the law.

Koma · Jan 29, 2020

MagicMarker said:
Wells is an advocate. He was hired by the NFL to find Brady guilty and he did. If the NFL wanted him to investigate and follow wherever the evidence took him, I think we'd have seen an entirely different result

One of the indicators of that was, from what I remember, Wells offered no details on the explanations McNally and Jastremski gave him. His assessment would be "I believe they did X because of Y. They offered explanation Z, but I didn't accept that." We never heard what explanations they offered and why Wells didn't believe them. He went with the worst case/most incriminating scenario from a Patriots standpoint, rejected any alternatives and never revealed what those were.

Jlaff · Jan 30, 2020

Koma said:
It's pretty remarkable that an article like this was published by ESPN. In September of 2015, Mike Reiss wrote a reaction article to the Anonymous Source Brothers hit piece on the Patriots. In it, Reiss raised a point questioning one of the assertions of cheating in New England. ESPN removed that material from his article, claiming it needed a "tighter edit." We've gone from not being allowed to question any negative claims about the Patriots, no matter how absurd, to casting doubt on if a high profile "scandal" even happened.

In terms of motivation, I can't imagine ESPN management had a change of heart on the topic. If I had to guess, they see that Brady's career will end in the next few years and they want to show him the company isn't an enemy in case he's interested in TV work. Along those lines, maybe they've seen the reactions to Belichick on the NFL100 shows and want to present a friendlier, or more balanced face, in order to court him, as well.

I think I read that Disney or some other new executive told ESPN to drop all the SJW nonsense. I'd say it's very SJW to think that other's success wasn't earned i.e. "that rich person must have cheated". Speculating, but maybe less SJW lead to less paranoia that the Patriots were always cheating.

Jlaff · Jan 30, 2020

Jlaff said:
I think I read that Disney or some other new executive told ESPN to drop all the SJW nonsense. I'd say it's very SJW to think that other's success wasn't earned i.e. "that rich person must have cheated". Speculating, but maybe less SJW lead to less paranoia that the Patriots were always cheating.

Disney CEO Bob Iger says ESPN has become too political: 'The pendulum may have swung a little bit too far'

It was Iger who didn't like how political ESPN had become.

Loved the "WokeCenter" comment in the article.

PittPatriot · Jun 20, 2020

Is this the same Berman who sided with Brady in court?
Barr Abruptly Seeks to Fire U.S. Attorney Who Investigated Trump Associates

Patsfanin Philly · Jun 20, 2020

PittPatriot said:
Is this the same Berman who sided with Brady in court?
Barr Abruptly Seeks to Fire U.S. Attorney Who Investigated Trump Associates

Different Berman but reading about him on Wiki, he is a stand up prosecutor who went after all corruption, regardless of party affiliation......

sb1 · Jun 20, 2020

PittPatriot said:
Is this the same Berman who sided with Brady in court?
Barr Abruptly Seeks to Fire U.S. Attorney Who Investigated Trump Associates

That was Judge Richard Berman. Same district though.

farn · Jun 20, 2020

Still angry and frustrated about this. Yes, it’s illogical and immature. Just shows how far jealous people will go / allow themselves to believe w/o checking facts.

NFL became the WWE that summer.

BTTA · Jun 20, 2020

farn said:
Still angry and frustrated about this. Yes, it’s illogical and immature. Just shows how far jealous people will go / allow themselves to believe w/o checking facts.

NFL became the WWE that summer.

I think the WWE is more honest about the fact that it is built on raw, silly, slight of hand. Its the difference between the everyday burglar who will admit his vocation after a few beers, and a predatory banker who has fooled himself into thinking that what he does is legit and honest.

PatsFanSince74 · Jun 21, 2020

I won't click on it, but if someone wants to cut and paste as much as they can get away with i'll read it.

As I've said dozens of times to hundreds of people, "The only reason those balls lost air pressure that day was that they were in cold, rainy conditions for three hours after being inflated in a room heated to 72 degrees and, even then, they were, on average, only 0.23 psi (the weight of a toothpick) below their expected weight, well within a single standard deviation from the mean. In other words, the whole thing was a fabrication by Grigson, Mort, ESPN and the League."

Total ****ing ********.

Pat the Pats Fan · Jun 22, 2020

I am so glad I cut cable and don't have to surf past BSPN anymore.

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