Should the Pats Acquire Josh Rosen?

TheRainMaker said:

I'd rather sign Cam Newman and start him. Rodney Harrison approves.

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uh...he's a tad overweight, no?

Joker said:

uh...he's a tad overweight, no?

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I'd probably take that guy over Rosen.

I mean, if being entertained is why we watch football...

Joker said:

uh...he's a tad overweight, no?

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Neeeeewman!

Goof on my end.

The big problem with Rosen is that if you trade for him and he performs in camp like he has in games during his first two seasons, then you’re cutting him and paying him almost $5 million guaranteed to be on a practice squad or fall out of the NFL entirely.

ok, I'm old and decidedly not hip. What the heck does RLKAG mean?

p8ryts said:

ok, I'm old and decidedly not hip. What the heck does RLKAG mean?

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R*y L*w*s K*ll*d A G*y

I'm a Rosen fan. I thought he looked great in college and really wasn't the problem in Arizona. But the Pats could have had him a year ago at the price of the draft pick that became Joejuan Williams. If they didn't want him then, I can't think they'll want him now.

Two teams with nothing to lose they were in the toilet decided he wasn’t worth it a dirt cheap rookie contract.

No. If he get Rosen we should be thinking about tanking

p8ryts said:

ok, I'm old and decidedly not hip. What the heck does RLKAG mean?

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I think if you see it in a poll on this site it essentially means "who cares" or "Eh, whatever, Ray Lewis killed a guy." Could be wrong though.

Mike the Brit said:

I'm a Rosen fan. I thought he looked great in college and really wasn't the problem in Arizona. But the Pats could have had him a year ago at the price of the draft pick that became Joejuan Williams. If they didn't want him then, I can't think they'll want him now.

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Perhaps they just didn't want him in exchange for a late 2nd-rounder...a late 6th/7th might be a different story maybe...

I'm a big fan of this idea....but not as a trade at least not a trade for anything higher than a 6th. You see the fact is that Miami HAS to get rid of him. There is no sense at all to keep him. Tua and Fitz are a perfect combination for Miami. There is simply no room to carry his salary as a #3 QB, and everyone in the league knows it. So in the end Rosen will either be cut or perhaps a very low draft pick could be salvaged for some team like the Pats who have very little invested at the QB position.

As a player, I think he'd be a great prospect to develop. This kid had top 10 pick talent when he came out of college. But I doubt there has been a player in the past decade who's had worse luck in his development. First he had 3 different OC's and 2 HC's in college. Then he spent a year on a one and done HC and system on the worse team in the league, only to spend another year in a different system on ANOTHER bad team, who decided to take the #1 rated QB prior to his injury.

Reasons to get him.

He has top rated physical talent that been badly misused.

He has a year of familiarity in the system and language they use here.

His cost will be minimal

Reasons to pass

He is so f%cked up at this point that it will take too much effort to get him back on track

Adding him will confuse or slow down the Stidham transition to the "next guy" and don't want him to lose snaps in the preseason

They really REALLY are convinced that Stidham is the next guy.

If we are putting it to a vote, add me to "go get him" (on the cheap) column. The kid has talent and I really believe that you can't have too much competition at the position this year. Ideally both Stidham and Rosen will emerge enough that it will be Hoyer who is the odd man out and may the best man out of Rosen than Stidham wins

I added another answer choice for picking Rosen up after he's released, so some of you feel free to change your response. My original poll should have been more clear.

I’m not comparing QBs, but Jim Plunkett went through a similar situation before he found success (championships). His situation is a little different in I think he won rookie of the year with the Pats. So he was good early on, then fizzled out in NE, traded to SF in 1976, fizzled out big time in SF (his hometown), and wound up with the Raiders (his 3rd team), went on to be a key player in their 2 championships.

I guess what I’m trying to say is, sometimes you just need the right situation, the right fit, to finally succeed. Rosen may be a bust, but he’s still young, may just need to be somewhere where the team wants him and will let him start.

captain stone said:

Perhaps they just didn't want him in exchange for a late 2nd-rounder...a late 6th/7th might be a different story...

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If they really thought that this was a guy who might realistically take over the quarterback's job after Brady, a 2nd-rounder would be a trivial price to pay.

Just....... NO!

"hey, let's see what Ryan Leaf has left!"

scott99 said:

I’m not comparing QBs, but Jim Plunkett went through a similar situation before he found success (championships). His situation is a little different in I think he won rookie of the year with the Pats. So he was good early on, then fizzled out in NE, traded to SF in 1976, fizzled out big time in SF (his hometown), and wound up with the Raiders (his 3rd team), went on to be a key player in their 2 championships.

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My understanding with Plunkett is that he did not get along with Chuck Fairbanks and wanted out, so they traded him...not necessarily performance driven.

TommyBrady12 said:

My understanding with Plunkett is that he did not get along with Chuck Fairbanks and wanted out, so they traded him...not necessarily performance driven.

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He threw 87 INTs in his 4 1/2 year Pat’s career (led the league in INTs one year, had 25 INTs another year). I think it was a combination of both.

Wozzy said:

He blows.

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Stidham and Hoyer are so good that competition is totally unnecessary. Either one of these two is a winner, or we glorify in a 6-10 season and hope for a better QB AND backup[ next year.

TheRainMaker said:

If teams really need cap room, they'll find a way.

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If want Cam, we could find room by trading Thuney for whatever we can get. After all, going into the offseason we didn't even expect to really try for him.

If we want Rosen as a competitor or even as a #2 this year and next, the cost is minimal.