OT: This is why Pats fans "hate" Travis Kelce

Gator Mike said:

Am I alone in not really caring one way or another about Travis Kelce?

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This. And there's plenty of people throughout the sport I dislike more than Kelce.

I still remember the season opener in 2017 and he was on the pre-game show taking about how he's matured as a player, etc, etc. Low and behold, he got a unsportsmanlike conduct penalty in the game...

Gator Mike said:

Am I alone in not really caring one way or another about Travis Kelce?

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agreed. Hes a great recieving te. Plays for a rival so i root against him. Thats it

I don’t hate Kelce. Or the Chiefs all that much to be honest. Of the teams I despise they are way down the list.

sb1 said:

I don’t hate Kelce. Or the Chiefs all that much to be honest. Of the teams I despise they are way down the list.

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The Queefs should be no lower than 5th on your list.

captain stone said:

The Queefs should be no lower than 5th on your list.

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I suppose their fans... ok I hate them again.

TBR said:

He's no Gronk, but I like him more than any other player on that team.

From a neutral standpoint, you could easily argue both Kelce and Gronk are major douchebags.

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Hard disagree on that one.

One of the things I heard most from fans of other teams was this "I hate New England. ****ing hate them. Except Gronk. I like him"

No one ever says that about Kelce.

tuckeverlasting said:

no...it's because he's a douche !

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I hate Kelce because he’s not our douche.

What no posts on the douche's new contract !!! He must be disliked....lol

I don’t understand why you pay him that much right now. You could have him play out this year in the same contract, franchise him next year (if necessary) and even franchise him the year after and still get a better value. Why pay him the same outlier amount as an actual outlier like Kittle?

Looking at the Chiefs contracts, it looks like, even if the salary cap doesn’t decrease (which it very well might):

2021 is an all-in season where they should be outstanding. Of course, this team has been really good the last few years but not like a 15-1 all-time great team. They’re still very much in the pack with the rest.

2022 is where a lot of these deals start to get a lot bigger and they’ll probably need to start making big compromises. They’re not going to have a lot of flexibility outside of the Mahomes contract they can continue to restructure.

2023 is when you’re going to have a lot of aging veterans still getting paid through the nose. Best case scenario is they are still performing. More likely scenario is some of them will have declined due to injury or age.

They can still field a good team but to get a Super Bowl contender they’ll need to hit a grand slam in the drafts. That’s been a fallacy for many teams like Seattle and Green Bay in trying to pay their superstars max-like deals and figuring they’ll just draft well. You’re usually drafting late in the first round, for one.

Teams just don’t have the killer instinct like the Patriots. No way Bill gives a 4-year extension to a soon to be 31 year old tight end and also pays him market...it makes no sense. They’re paying on past production rather than projected future production.

The Chiefs players are saying they’re taking hometown deals to stay together. They’re not. They’re basically being allowed to hit free agency early (Chiefs matching market deals.)

There’s a lot of reasons the Patriots won’t be matched for success in the salary cap era, but this is big reason. Teams are just too soft and too attached to their fan favorites. They lack the financial discipline to make sound decisions.

Of course we don’t like you Travis you play for the other team!

Taco said:

Of course we don’t like you Travis you play for the other team!

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Wrong.

We don't like Travis Kelce because he's a feckin azzhole.

I don't hate Kelce. I just don't think he's as good as the national media tried to make him out to be. That's not to say he's not a great player but he didn't deserve the all decade team and I'd take Kittle over him as a complete player any day of the week.

Regarding hating the Chiefs sorry but Raiders, Dolphins, Jets, Steelers, Ravens, Colts and Broncos all rank way higher on my list. I really don't see how any of those teams are even close to debatable given the history between them and the Patriots over the years. The Giants, Cowboys, Eagles and Rams I can see being higher as well but not by the distance of that first group.

Amazing how the Cheifs had $1M in cap space, yet signed 3 players to big contracts.

Cap has always been crap.

Perhaps because he is an incrediblly gifted, socially inept, 'look at me' buffon who can't even donate a portion of his recent megacheck without tweeting, texting, and face-timing every media outlet within the continental US so we could all appreciate just how great the slimeball is.

TheRainMaker said:

Amazing how the Cheifs had $1M in cap space, yet signed 3 players to big contracts.

Cap has always been crap.

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Tell that the New Orleans Saints.

Kelce bought a building in downtown KC to help kids. He has a foundation.

Kansas City, Missouri is a mess. It is among the top 10 most deadly US cities when you calculate homicides by population. KC schools are a dumpster fire and they had lost their accreditation.

Yes, Kelce is obnoxious. But he is giving back to the community and right now Mahomes and Kelce are Brady and Gronk whether you like it or not.

Tottie said:

He's a bit of a whinny hot head. We like guys like Gronk that will just throw you out of the club if he has a problem with you, not whine like a baby.

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Or cheap-shot a defenseless DB lying on the ground?

I loved Gronk, but he was no choir boy either.

Although throwing Sergio "out of the club" was epic.

TheRainMaker said:

Amazing how the Cheifs had $1M in cap space, yet signed 3 players to big contracts.

Cap has always been crap.

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Is this true? How did they work that if so. Always thought despite the bs the salary cap in the league was pretty legit.

neuronet said:

Is this true? How did they work that if so. Always thought despite the bs the salary cap in the league was pretty legit.

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They had like $157.44 and signed their core in like a month lol. Salary cap is quite real but smart teams take advantage of it all the time.