NFL rumored to be considering 14 game season starting in October

Nehalem said:

And the Patriots win the #1 pick and select Trevor Lawerence

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Bill would only trade it, leading to five other trades, leaving him with 17 additional selections over four years.

Oh, wait, Nike is the GM now. Never mind. The pick is in.

Do we know if tests are effective during the incubation period? Wondering what happens when one player tests positive during the week. Is the next game cancelled? Can they test the rest of the team by the next day and determine who has it, immediately after exposure (presumably)?

Games without fans will be extremely lame.

XLIX said:

I would wager they are “considering” a wide variety of possibilities.

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Yup.

14 works for me. Just play the 3 divisions, and eliminate the games with BALT and HOU. This is really the easiest way to play 14 games.

Weird, I said the same thing yesterday to a friend, I said 14 games and starts in October. I must be a Nostra-dumbass.

mikey m said:

Do we know if tests are effective during the incubation period? Wondering what happens when one player tests positive during the week. Is the next game cancelled? Can they test the rest of the team by the next day and determine who has it, immediately after exposure (presumably)?

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I believe tests will show false negative early during infection. So no, won’t be able to test the entire team the next day and have confidence in results. The way the testing cluster has been handled that won’t matter, they’ll just do it and announce no other infections detected. When they test positive a week later it will get ignored. Or a hand wave.

sb1 said:

The draft would be interesting if there’s a cancelled season. Obviously the same order from 2019 would be absolutely unfair. Would have to be a lottery of some kind.

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Yup, and that would be rigged to high heaven. Can you imagine the uproar if the Pats got number 1. Or top 5 with the top 4 being KC, etc.

Would be a meltdown.

Elijah said:

Yeah, I don't understand all these decisions to shut things down in a few months when we have no idea what the situation will be like by then. The dates being set seem so arbitrary; there's absolutely no guarantee things will have blown over by the time reopening dates come around. It's also just as possible things will have been over for quite a while by then and they overshot the target. Why not just wait until we have more information to definitively decide when things will open?

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Problem is that to play games in a couple of months they need time to prepare, OTAs and training camp will come much sooner and they are needed before real games can be played.

n6249c said:

I believe tests will show false negative early during infection. .

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With respect, there are experts and doctors who have a much more informed view than you do.

The thing about starting in October is that if this is a seasonal virus, which the most recent research suggests it is, then things will be worse in October than September - and continue to get worse as the season moves forward. That would kinda defeat the logic of starting late.

Please note I am not saying it is so seasonal that it will go away completely in the summertime in the U.S. There is, however, plenty of evidence to suggest it will not transmit quite as quickly.

It's simple to me. No vaccine, no practice - no practice, no games.
The public won't tolerate football personnel, and all of their families, getting a vaccine before people at risk and everyone else, just so the NFL can play an entertaining game.
The NFL will try to roll out patriotic slogans and USA! USA! propaganda to fortify their position but the show will not go on.
IMO of course.

The latest. If true there will be no season without a viable vaccine and a way to deliver it en masse.

A revised mortality model predicts coronavirus deaths in the U.S. will nearly double to 135,000 through August as states continue to ease social distancing restrictions.

The grim new projection, released by the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IMHE) Monday, which has helped influence the U.S. response to the coronavirus outbreak, has jumped up considerably from its April 29 forecast of 72,433 deaths.

The considerably higher projection reflects “changes in mobility and social distancing policies,” the institute said. As a growing number of states begin to roll out plans to reopen, the institute is estimating longer epidemic peaks and slower downward trajectories in the U.S.

There is no reason to believe that adequate testing won't be available before October.

One plan is for the team and family (and presumably staff and other workers and their families) would be in the same hotel all week. Obviously, there would be testing each week, perhaps twice.

I suppose arrangements might have to be made for any state that refuse to allow games.
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I suspect that we will all understand this better when we understand that the game is being played for tens of millions, not for 70K fans. Sure, the game is better with fans (although many players would probably disagree), But, there should be no problems with games in October.
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The open question is whether there will be sufficient testing to be able to start camp in there months, in mid-August, a month late. Personally, I think that this is doable.

mgteich said:

With respect, there are experts and doctors who have a much more informed view than you do.

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What do they say?

Contribute something useful for a change rather than just crapping on another poster. “With respect” = empty words. Particularly when you have no idea how informed my view is.

Trusting 20 something elite athletes to comply will be the toughest test. They want to go out, hit the club, etc... can’t see then accepting the quarantine some pundits are suggesting as a plan.

Hoping for the diversion sports would bring forth, but won’t be surprised if the task is just too daunting.

On a similar note : despite being a big sports fan my whole life, I’ve found myself missing them much less than I thought I would. When they return, I’ll tune in - as always - but I can’t say I miss them nearly as much as I figured I would.

Posted in another thread but pertinent to this one too, no vaccine...no football::

“It doesn’t make sense to play any games unless it is completely, 100 percent safe for us to go out there,’’ Broncos veteran safety Kareem Jackson said Tuesday in a Zoom media call. “If there is any threat to us being able to contract COVID of any way and spread it to our families or anybody else that we’re around, it just doesn’t make sense.
“I think I heard them saying something about us playing with no fans and all that. That will be like practice. In my opinion that would suck. Just talking with some of the guys, it just doesn’t make sense to go play any games unless it’s 100 percent safe for us to go out there.”

Teej said:

Posted in another thread but pertinent to this one too, no vaccine...no football::

“It doesn’t make sense to play any games unless it is completely, 100 percent safe for us to go out there,’’ Broncos veteran safety Kareem Jackson said Tuesday in a Zoom media call. “If there is any threat to us being able to contract COVID of any way and spread it to our families or anybody else that we’re around, it just doesn’t make sense.
“I think I heard them saying something about us playing with no fans and all that. That will be like practice. In my opinion that would suck. Just talking with some of the guys, it just doesn’t make sense to go play any games unless it’s 100 percent safe for us to go out there.”

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I doubt his opinion represents the majority. The owners aren’t the only greedy ones here.

I don’t even mean it in a derogatory way when I say they are all “greedy”. Missing an entire season would create a situation where the players, as a group, would lose billions of dollars that they could never recover.

scott99 said:

Weird, I said the same thing yesterday to a friend, I said 14 games and starts in October. I must be a Nostra-dumbass.

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You are Roger are totally in synch, mentally. Sorry about that.

XLIX said:

I doubt his opinion represents the majority. The owners aren’t the only greedy ones here.

I don’t even mean it in a derogatory way when I say they are all “greedy”. Missing an entire season would create a situation where the players, as a group, would lose billions of dollars that they could never recover.

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Well, since we're living with a pandemic of Biblical proportions...

Ecclesiastes 9:4 "A live dog is better than a dead lion."

Players can't spend a dime if they're dead.

Teej said:

Well, since we're living with a pandemic of Biblical proportions...

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If you think this is a “pandemic of biblical proportions” then you are phenomenally ignorant of history.

Teej said:

Players can't spend a dime if they're dead.

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If you want to cower at home, that’s you’re right. So what’s your solution? Everyone live in fear for the 2+ years it will take - if we’re lucky - to develop and distribute a vaccine? No sports until 2022?