Gronk says he had Bucs playbook when he was under contract with the Patriots

Wax Frog said:

That's my point. If TB were to take a smelly public dump on the organization I'd be shocked, saddened, etc., but he seems like the stays-in-Vegas type, and of course he has his brand to protect.

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sb1 said:

Not buying Gronk's excuse. He had the playbook early. I saw the clip and there's nothing there that made me think he was joking around. He opened his mouth and got caught. Not too bright.

Also makes me start to doubt Brady's excuse for showing up at Leftwich's house with the duffelbags. Personal visit my ass. He wasn't there to pick up the playbook if Gronk already had it. He was there to work out with his OC, against the rules. He ought to know better than this especially if his reputation isn't the best when it comes to following the rules.

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wizwor said:

I root for the laundry.

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upstater1 said:

Brady was the QB here for 20 years. The best 20 years in the history of the league. 9 Super Bowls and 6 wins. Unless you're a vampire who will live 500 years, there's no way to disassociate the guy from the laundry. For a huge chunk of fans (those 28 and under), he was the Patriots for their entire football watching lives. For another set (those 28-38), 2/3rds of their lives. For another, like me, a little more than half their lives.

It's hard to forget half your life.

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1960Pats said:

I wanted to see Brady and Gronk succeed anyway, but if they did the reactions by some fans here would be priceless.

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upstater1 said:

Brady was the QB here for 20 years. The best 20 years in the history of the league. 9 Super Bowls and 6 wins. Unless you're a vampire who will live 500 years, there's no way to disassociate the guy from the laundry. For a huge chunk of fans (those 28 and under), he was the Patriots for their entire football watching lives. For another set (those 28-38), 2/3rds of their lives. For another, like me, a little more than half their lives.

It's hard to forget half your life.

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Tony2046 said:

"I root for the laundry".

" Go blue jersey go"

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wizwor said:

I can only speak for myself. While I would enjoy the pair failing miserably, I will not get worked up if they do not. Just the same way I enjoy a good Pats performance while simply turning off the radio when they have a bad week. It's entertainment. That's all. When I am not entertained, I turn off the television. Give it a try.

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sprwmn88 said:

A true crackhead.

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wizwor said:

Been peeing in a cup for 34 years. Wrong again, Rookie. Maybe hang around the forums for a while, keep quiet, and learn something.

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upstater1 said:

Brady was the QB here for 20 years. The best 20 years in the history of the league. 9 Super Bowls and 6 wins. Unless you're a vampire who will live 500 years, there's no way to disassociate the guy from the laundry. For a huge chunk of fans (those 28 and under), he was the Patriots for their entire football watching lives. For another set (those 28-38), 2/3rds of their lives. For another, like me, a little more than half their lives.

It's hard to forget half your life.

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wizwor said:

Disagree. I have never liked Tom Brady. From early interviews that regaled us with tales of his competitiveness (by throwing a video game console at a TV) to his abandoning a pregnant 'girlfriend' to stories about his unwillingness to work with young players (including Gronk) to rumors that he chased Jimmy G. out of town. I don't like the guy. I do not give him credit for the Patriots success. I seem to remember that the snow bowl that started it all was won on the reversal of a Brady fumble and that the guy who secured that game and the championship was a kicker. That guy won a few Lombardis for this team. Guys like Butler and Edelman and James White had something to do with those championships. Never mind Troy Brown and Clock Killing Corey Dillon -- and Antowain Smith who won a championship at home in Houston. Oh, and this guy Rodney Harrison who stayed in the game with a broken arm. Did I mention that the team had a decent coach?

You potatoes who sit on the couch looking for the number on the back of your $100 t-shirt should feel free to root for whatever shirt tickles your fancy. The rest of us know that a lot of players contributed to that dynasty.

As for Mrs. TB12 who sniped that her husband cannot throw and catch the ball, some guy named David Patten Patten ran 29 yards for a touchdown, threw a 60-yard TD pass to Troy Brown and caught two touchdown passes himself, including a 91-yarder, the longest pass play for a touchdown in team history -- all in the same game. JE11 also threw the pass and caught the ball.

Gronk, not doubt a stud TE, contributed very little to the championships. He is a d1ck and I wish him nothing but failure.

Brady left this team. I wish him nothing but failure. Brady was here for 20 years. Were it not for Coach, he probably would never have played a game in the NFL. He's gone. Let's see what the TEAM can do going forward.

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sb1 said:

Just put her on your ignore list. I did and it really is much better that way.

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Ned Stark said:

So you don't like Tom Brady because:

1.) He's overly competitive (truly a terrible trait for a professional athlete to have).

2.) He "abandoned" his pregnant gf, even though Moynahan herself has said that when they broke up neither of them knew she was pregnant, and Tom has been a great dad every step of the way.

3.) "Stories about his unwillingness to help young players." Please cite a single teammate of Tom Brady that has said they don't like him.

4.) Rumors about him running Jimmy G out of town, as if Bill Belichick is going to let a player run the team.

You also go on to say that you give Tom Brady zero credit for the success of this franchise. That is the single dumbest thing I've ever read, and I've been on the Jets message board a time or two.

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Ned Stark said:

So you don't like Tom Brady because:

1.) He's overly competitive (truly a terrible trait for a professional athlete to have).

2.) He "abandoned" his pregnant gf, even though Moynahan herself has said that when they broke up neither of them knew she was pregnant, and Tom has been a great dad every step of the way.

3.) "Stories about his unwillingness to help young players." Please cite a single teammate of Tom Brady that has said they don't like him.

4.) Rumors about him running Jimmy G out of town, as if Bill Belichick is going to let a player run the team.

You also go on to say that you give Tom Brady zero credit for the success of this franchise. That is the single dumbest thing I've ever read, and I've been on the Jets message board a time or two.

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sb1 said:

Of course. But there are those of us who think it’s funny that some are absolutely offended that we won’t become Bucs fans and won’t participate in the sour grapes over his departure.

For me I wish him well but that’s about it. His pouting last year and social media and trademark silliness honestly made it easier to get over his departure than I thought it would be. Not my QB anymore.

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sb1 said:

Not any dumber than what I’ve read this week giving no credit to Belichick either. Because he sucked in Cleveland 30 years ago or something.

If he does well in Tampa just wait till the Brady cheerleaders try to convince us the Patriots would be 14-2 and champs in 2020 if Brady had stayed because 6 rings or something. And I get called the homer for looking at the team from emotion instead of being realistic. Lol

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wizwor said:

Disagree. I have never liked Tom Brady. From early interviews that regaled us with tales of his competitiveness (by throwing a video game console at a TV) to his abandoning a pregnant 'girlfriend' to stories about his unwillingness to work with young players (including Gronk) to rumors that he chased Jimmy G. out of town. I don't like the guy. I do not give him credit for the Patriots success. I seem to remember that the snow bowl that started it all was won on the reversal of a Brady fumble and that the guy who secured that game and the championship was a kicker. That guy won a few Lombardis for this team. Guys like Butler and Edelman and James White had something to do with those championships. Never mind Troy Brown and Clock Killing Corey Dillon -- and Antowain Smith who won a championship at home in Houston. Oh, and this guy Rodney Harrison who stayed in the game with a broken arm. Did I mention that the team had a decent coach?

You potatoes who sit on the couch looking for the number on the back of your $100 t-shirt should feel free to root for whatever shirt tickles your fancy. The rest of us know that a lot of players contributed to that dynasty.

As for Mrs. TB12 who sniped that her husband cannot throw and catch the ball, some guy named David Patten Patten ran 29 yards for a touchdown, threw a 60-yard TD pass to Troy Brown and caught two touchdown passes himself, including a 91-yarder, the longest pass play for a touchdown in team history -- all in the same game. JE11 also threw the pass and caught the ball.

Gronk, not doubt a stud TE, contributed very little to the championships. He is a d1ck and I wish him nothing but failure.

Brady left this team. I wish him nothing but failure. Brady was here for 20 years. Were it not for Coach, he probably would never have played a game in the NFL. He's gone. Let's see what the TEAM can do going forward.

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upstater1 said:

We're homers because we think the greatest player in the history of the league is responsible for all the Super Bowls.

It's a crazy thought, I know.

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