Say the Patriots do get the #1 pick overall in 2021

Hammer of Thor · Apr 29, 2020

Palm Beach Pats Fan said:
If you are relying on the success of winning titles by using a #1 pick on a QB, the apt comparison is to note the success of winning titles after trading away the #1 pick.

Usually trading the #1 pick for what seems like a bounty doesn't really accomplish much

History of Trading The First Overall Pick In The NFL Draft

But why would you want to miss out on the next Pat Harlow?

Pape · Apr 29, 2020

As you already knew when you asked the question, Ray Lewis killed a guy, quite possibly two ....

And you draft Lawrence, which everyone knows is a no brainier

scout · Apr 29, 2020

I'll play because there is nothing else to do. Tui was the favorite to be selected #1 until his injury and Joe Burrow had the greatest season of a QB in history. Thus, what happens if Lawrence gets injured or someone has a phenomenal year? It's all hypothetical, but so is the thread.

Kdo5 · Apr 29, 2020

If we hypothetically had #1 which we won’t, you take Lawrence. Because that would mean Stidham absolutely blows for us to pick that high.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Belichick over thought it, traded down for a safety and OL.

NashuaPats · Apr 29, 2020

I’ll play too. Stidham has a bad year giving them a reason to trade up. The Pats trade Gilmore for a first and Thuney for a second. Then use those picks plus our own first to trade up.

If Cincinnati, Miami, or LAC finish with the worst record, they would be interested in trading down.

Also, Justin Fields might be a decent consolation prize if the #1 is unavailable.

chris_in_sunnyvale · Apr 29, 2020

If you have the pick, you take Lawrence.

If you don't have the pick, you don't give away the farm to acquire the pick.

Every other option seems like overthinking it, IMO.

Regards,
Chris

sean10mm · Apr 29, 2020

If you have a shot at taking the #1 overall QB (which only even happens if Stidham has a Nathan Peterman-tier absolute and total meltdown) then IMO you take the elite QB prospect.

XLIX · Apr 29, 2020

IllegalContact said:
the manning boys, elway and aikman are the only top picks to win it all with the teams that drafted them (or got them on draft day)...at least as far as I care to go back

trade the pick

You forgot Bledsoe.

You can look at this another way though.... If we start with Elway, 22 quarterbacks have been drafted #1 overall. That includes everyone to the present day, including Burrow. 4 of them (the 4 you mentioned) won Super Bowls with their original teams. Another 3 went to the Super Bowl with their original teams (and I am putting Bledsoe in the category of guys who went to the Super Bowl with his original team but did not win it even though technically he did).

So about 1/3rd of QB's drafted #1 overall made it to the Super Bowl. When you consider the fact that the team picking #1 overall is the worst team in the NFL the previous year* and in many cases just a general clusterf*ck of an organization, that's actually a pretty decent rate.

*of the 3 #1's who were draft day trades, 2 of those were for teams drafting no worse than #4. The Rams selecting Jared Goff are really the only example of a not-atrocious team taking a QB #1 overall

captain stone · Apr 29, 2020

What does RLKAG mean again?

RobertWeathers · Apr 29, 2020

captain stone said:
What does RLKAG mean again?

Ray Lewis Killed A Guy

IllegalContact · Apr 29, 2020

XLIX said:
You forgot Bledsoe.

You can look at this another way though.... If we start with Elway, 22 quarterbacks have been drafted #1 overall. That includes everyone to the present day, including Burrow. 4 of them (the 4 you mentioned) won Super Bowls with their original teams. Another 3 went to the Super Bowl with their original teams (and I am putting Bledsoe in the category of guys who went to the Super Bowl with his original team but did not win it even though technically he did).

So about 1/3rd of QB's drafted #1 overall made it to the Super Bowl. When you consider the fact that the team picking #1 overall is the worst team in the NFL the previous year* and in many cases just a general clusterf*ck of an organization, that's actually a pretty decent rate.

*of the 3 #1's who were draft day trades, 2 of those were for teams drafting no worse than #4. The Rams selecting Jared Goff are really the only example of a not-atrocious team taking a QB #1 overall

valid point though I would still move the pick......mostly because the guy running things here was very effective in building a team for a young QB that won SB's while the QB was young and developing and near zero cap hit.

It's good that there's a year to see this all unfold

IllegalContact · Apr 29, 2020

NashuaPats said:
I’ll play too. Stidham has a bad year giving them a reason to trade up. The Pats trade Gilmore for a first and Thuney for a second. Then use those picks plus our own first to trade up.

If Cincinnati, Miami, or LAC finish with the worst record, they would be interested in trading down.

Also, Justin Fields might be a decent consolidation prize if the #1 is unavailable.

consolidation prize

n6249c · Apr 29, 2020

Can’t say, without knowing what happens this year.

Maybe 2020 season doesn’t happen because pandemic wave 2 is worse than the first, and the Pats win the lottery for draft position next year. Apart from Goodell suspending the rules to prevent that from happening, of course.

But we don’t know the details of what happened so can’t tell what is needed. Maybe Stidham lit it up first game and first half of the second game before going down with a broken femur. Nothing that would seem to jeopardize his future, just something that wouldn’t heal in time to salvage the season.

That’s a totally different scenario from the break being another Alex Smith type injury.

So what the Pats should do will depends on things we do not know now. Thus it’s pointless to waste time getting excited about debating different hallucinations.

But one thing we do know. RLKAG.

NashuaPats · Apr 29, 2020

IllegalContact said:
consolidation prize

Obviously, I meant consolation prize, but consolidation isn’t a bad way of putting it.

TheRainMaker · Apr 29, 2020

Trade down until the 2nd round and take another DB?

NuckyDuck · Apr 29, 2020

Last pick baby!!!!

luuked · Apr 29, 2020

Depends on their internal evaluation of Lawrence and whoever else will end up playing themselves into the conversation.

Lets be real you can set yourself up with a plethora of early and valuable draft picks over the next 2-3 years if you trade down from #1. You can pretty much built an entirely new backbone on both sides of the ball for 5-7 years by trading that pick.

carmelo15 · Apr 29, 2020

IllegalContact said:
the manning boys, elway and aikman are the only top picks to win it all with the teams that drafted them (or got them on draft day)...at least as far as I care to go back

trade the pick

Smh so what, take the best QB and move on who cares about that stat

IllegalContact · Apr 30, 2020

carmelo15 said:
Smh so what, take the best QB and move on who cares about that stat

smh so what, take the picks and build a team who cares about that qb

PatsFanSince74 · Apr 30, 2020

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Say the Patriots do get the #1 pick overall in 2021

What should the Pats do if they have the #1 pick in 2021?

Lawrence

Trade if the offer is a great one

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