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I like the packers plan better than that of the patriots, who IMO waited too long to draft a POTENTIAL replacement for Brady.

I mean they had their successor in JG but Brady just kept upping the ante and pulling out one MVP-esque season after another.

Since then they drafted Brissett in 2016 and Stidham in 2019. I don't think QB is really a position they waited too long for anything. Now TE on the other hand..
 
It's interesting that Rodgers wanted a different HC and the guy they got is really not a fit for what Rodgers does compared to McCarthy.

This is the most absurd thing about this. The Packers (i.e. Gutekunst) give Rodgers this big final contract which is structured in a way where it is impossible to move on from him until 2022 without eating a ****ton of deadcap. Whatever that is the cost of business. But if you dish out that contract and decide to be in the Aaron Rodgers business you gotta be ALL IN.

But since giving out that extension Gutekunst almost seems to be hedging and playing the long game.
 




The best of all time is about to become a Patriot in the near future.

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Why would he come back to NE?...
 
You knew Favre would be all over this. LOL
 
This is the most absurd thing about this. The Packers (i.e. Gutekunst) give Rodgers this big final contract which is structured in a way where it is impossible to move on from him until 2022 without eating a ****ton of deadcap. Whatever that is the cost of business. But if you dish out that contract and decide to be in the Aaron Rodgers business you gotta be ALL IN.

But since giving out that extension Gutekunst almost seems to be hedging and playing the long game.

Teams just not being able to stick to a plan one way or the other kills them as much as anything else. If it's Rodgers or bust, then fine, but in that scenario you don't spend a high pick on a QB. If it's not Rodgers or bust he never gets that contract in the first place. Being wishy-washy is less likely to succeed than committing 100% to either one or the other way of doing things.
 
I believe IF the Packers trade Rodgers the cap hit is not nearly as bad as if they were to release him.
 
I believe IF the Packers trade Rodgers the cap hit is not nearly as bad as if they were to release him.
My interpretation from the numbers on SporTrac is they would have to eat $34.5 million if they traded him, $51.1 million if they cut him. If they waited until June 1, they would be able to have that hit $11.5 million this year and all the rest next year.

I just don't see any movement of Rodgers this offseason.
 
Great article here from Mazz:


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By Tony Massarotti, 98.5 The Sports Hub

In the midst of a pandemic, undoubtedly, emotions are raw. But as Brett Favre flapped his gums yesterday to Rich Eisen of the NFL Network – just weeks after Tom Brady departed the Patriots – please forgive those of us whose blood began to boil.

"I think he'll play somewhere else," Favre told Eisen, strongly suggesting that Rodgers would not finish his career with the Green Bay Packers.

So here’s the follow-up question:

So (expletive) what?

Here’s the problem with people today, especially, apparently, the former and current quarterbacks of the Green Bay Packers: they somehow think the world owes them something. And it doesn’t – with the obvious exception of those who were born disadvantaged from the start. But that’s real world stuff. The gifted athletes with the multi-million-dollar arms to go with strength speed and, in some cases, smarts? Please. Cry me a g.d. river.

In the case of Rodgers, specifically, you know what the transgression is? That the Packers had the audacity to disrespect him and select a quarterback (Jordan Love) in the first round of the NFL draft. Favre told Eisen that the selection of Love “burned a bridge [with Rodgers] that’s going to be hard to overcome,” which would be comical if it weren’t so downright ego-maniacal, self-important and insulting.

Burned a bridge? What bridge? Rodgers currently has a four-year, $134-million contract that averages $33.5 million per season and makes him one of the very highest-paid quarterbacks in NFL history. Last year, he ranked 12th in the NFL in passer rating. The year before, he was 13th. The Packers are paying absolute top dollar for a player who has bordered on mediocrity for the last two seasons, if not longer, and the truth is that Rodgers has been a disappointment and underachiever for a very long time now.

Over the last five years, Rodgers ranks sixth in the NFL in passer rating, just ahead of Dak Prescott and Matthew Stafford, just behind Matt Ryan and Kirk Cousins. If the teams employing any of those guys brought in competition, nobody would bat an eye.

But this is Rodgers we’re talking about, which means he’s somehow off-limits.

Um, why?

And the fact that Favre is the one griping about it – the same way Favre griped about the Packers when he was replaced by Rodgers – is more than dripping with irony. It’s a joke. Favre hates the Packers because they actually got tired of his self-absorption and decided to move on. And he probably hates them more now because they were right to do so.

Back then, remember, Rodgers was something of an upstart. And he was easy to root for. Green Bay won the Super Bowl in 2011 – Rodgers’ fourth year as a starter – and he seemed destined at the time to become one of the greatest quarterbacks of all-time. The obvious problem is that he hasn’t won a title since – he hasn’t even made it back to the big game at all – and yet he somehow now regards himself (along with Favre) as a victim.

Is it just me or does this kind of whining just get incredibly old?

Here in New England, of course, we know all about this because we’ve lived it a thousand times, starting almost 25 years ago with Roger Clemens, who went 40-39 in his final four years with the Red Sox. Nonetheless, Clemens somehow became annoyed that the Red Sox were disrespecting him, even though he got fat, out of shape and relatively unmotivated. Only after Clemens left did he regain some level of motivation, which was further proof that he was coasting here at the end.

All of this brings us Tom Brady and the Patriots, who finally broke up this spring after 20 years together. But at least it took 20 years. And at least Brady won six Super Bowls and went to nine of them. And at least he as 42. If Brady felt disrespected at the end, he certainly had far more right than either Favre or Rodgers, who have won one Super Bowl each. One. From Favre to Rodgers, the Packers have had the best combination of quarterbacks in the NFL over the last 25 years, and yet they have won one-third of the Super Bowls that Brady did.

And Rodgers is now somehow being mistreated?

Please.

It’s enough to make you wretch.

In the end, here’s the ultimate point: if Rodgers had been performing to his capability in recent years, the Packers probably wouldn’t have drafted any quarterback in the first round. They wouldn’t have needed to. Maybe the Patriots felt the same way about Brady. Whatever the case, the combination of Rodgers’ spoiled-brat attitude and his play are now worth far less than his salary, which inspired the Packers to take action.

If that meant strapping dynamite to the bridge between the organization and their quarterback, so be it.

I’d be happy to light the match for them.

Because there’s no point in saving a bridge that leads to nowhere.
 
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This is the only QB Bill will even entertain to bring in to start over Studham. Sometimes you just have to make exceptions for a once in a lifetime talent.
 
I like the packers plan better than that of the patriots, who IMO waited too long to draft a POTENTIAL replacement for Brady.

I would question what they did in 2018 (Etling? really?), but 2019 was solid.
 
My interpretation from the numbers on SporTrac is they would have to eat $34.5 million if they traded him, $51.1 million if they cut him. If they waited until June 1, they would be able to have that hit $11.5 million this year and all the rest next year.

I just don't see any movement of Rodgers this offseason.

The difference isn't massive: his salary for this year they would owe him a $6.8M roster bonus next year if he's cut; if he's traded, his new team takes that on. So it's still $45.9M if he's traded.

And either way, remember that his cap number for this year is already $21.6M, so the net change is ~$30M cut/~$25M traded.
 
I don't like the move either, but I also think they were an overrated 13-3 team that has little to no chance of getting to that record again this year. It's not like drafting a WR in the 1st round would put them over the top.

probably the luckiest team in the nfl last year.
I can’t blame them if they think Love is going to be their future starter for 10 plus years.

I feel like this wouldn’t be as big a story if he was taken with pick 38 on day 2
 
I feel like this wouldn’t be as big a story if he was taken with pick 38 on day 2
Maybe. But it is sort of hard to ignore that they traded up to get Love (who seems to have quite a few question marks about his ability to be a good / great NFL QB). It's not the same situation as with Favre / Rodgers in 2005. Rodgers was regarded as a possible #1 pick and he fell all the way to where the Packers were sitting at #24.
 
GB.....28 years lead by two superstar QBs....
and it appears GB is attempting to find the next 15 year starter
The franchise values continuity and stability more than anything else. No surprise when a team is run by committee instead of an impetuous owner.
GB has had only 4 losing seasons during this 28 year span, same as NE.
Having the right QB is everything in this league and GB is apparently attempting to repeat history a third time
 
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probably the luckiest team in the nfl last year.
I can’t blame them if they think Love is going to be their future starter for 10 plus years.

I feel like this wouldn’t be as big a story if he was taken with pick 38 on day 2
If they feel he's going to be great then this is a great move. The Mahomes trade up was ridiculous at the time but no one thinks that now.
 
GB.....28 years lead by two superstar QBs....
and it appears GB is attempting to find the next 15 year starter
The franchise values continuity and stability more than anything else. No surprise when a team is run by committee instead of an impetuous owner.
GB has had only 4 losing seasons during this 28 year span, same as NE.
Having the right QB is everything in this league and GB attempting to repeat history a third time
Is this a veiled shot at Kraft? Who cares if GB has had almost 30 years of winning records. They only have TWO rings to show for it whereas the impetuous owner of NE has SIX in 20 years with NINE appearances and ONE QB. The only thing GB has been really good at is wasting elite QB talent year after year.
 
The Packers would have to clear $11 million off their current payroll, just to afford the cap hit they would take from trading him. There is no scenario (cut, trade, restructure, etc.) in which Rodgers can be moved. File Rodgers to the Pats right next to Larry Fitz to the Pats, not going to happen.
 
Is this a veiled shot at Kraft? Who cares if GB has had almost 30 years of winning records. They only have TWO rings to show for it whereas the impetuous owner of NE has SIX in 20 years with NINE appearances and ONE QB. The only thing GB has been really good at is wasting elite QB talent year after year.
Veiled shot?
Did I classify Kraft as an ‘impetuous owner?’

Stop projecting your insecurities.

The discussion is about GB
Facts and timelines
 
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