Responses:
1. His tattoo is fine, and his beliefs are irrelevant.
2. Why does he owe anybody an explanation?
3. Cite a position from their site that is controversial.
4. So why should he have to answer for anybody in his group. We had a guy playing RB for us who assaulted a man on a football field on national television. Nobody cared. Has this guy done anything close?
5. So judge the individual members as individuals.
6. I have never met anybody who looks to athletes for "political inspiration".
7. You're willfully speculating that you have very little in common with the man politically without knowing a single thing about him. A major problem in 2020.
8. Nor should it anyone.
9. NOBODY has seen any evidence of his bigotry...we actually have clear evidence to the contrary...yet here we are.
10. The kneeling was stupid not because of the act, but because of the fallacy behind it.
I'm heading for some self medication and tube viewing with the wife, so Ill leave this response as my final on the topic as I have largely said what I wanted to say on it.
1. I guess I was saying the same thing, just a different way.
2. He doesn't owe anyone anything. But this is now a story for better or worse, and articulating yourself can go along way to getting past it.
3. At a 50K foot view, probably nothing. But the devil, as always, is in the details. Fighting Injustice sounds good. Whose injustice though? Standing up to tyranny sounds cool? But what do they consider tyranny? The "intent of our government, as defined" OK do they get to define "as defined"?
4. Maybe it was just the way I was raised, but my parents always taught me you are the company you keep. Being a member of group is a choice. If that group keeps questionable friends, then yourself are keeping questionable friends through your membership. I don't know which RB you are referring to.
5. I am and do. But groups who don't self police are in a sense condoning the action of the individual as acceptable when it isn't.
6. I look up to Ali for starters.
7. We all know a couple of things about him don't we? "Willfully speculating" or "an educated guess"? I'm going to "speculate" that a person maybe best described as an "Originalist" (I don't know of a better term for what the 3%ers are, Socially Center Right Libertarians?) and someone who sits firmly left of center don't share a ton of opinions. Let me be clear, there is nothing wrong with that, nor am I saying I wouldn't love to discuss things with him over a Whiskey.
8. This was more a reply to the general theme that anyone discussing this topic who doesn't sit somewhere on the right must be triggered by it.
9. see #4
10. You and I have faaaaaaaaaaaar too much history on the PoFo about topics delving into this theme to take that on any further ia. We are never going to see eye to eye on that topic and further no one here on this main board wants to see us try to discuss it again. We can leave that there.
