What to expect in the Post-Brady era.

Redman443 said:

Hopefully Marshall Newhouse isnt back next year

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Keyser Söze said:

If he is you really know we’re tanking for Lawrence.

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NYCPATS4LIFE said:

Lawrence just looks good in a pats uniform compared to say the jags . I don’t know who else has a shot at him next year having a terrible record.

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ivanvamp said:

I expect about 8-8 this year, if they even have a season. First, the schedule is MUCH harder than it was in 2019. Second, Stidham isn't Tom Brady, even a diminished Tom Brady. Third, they're getting younger and faster, but also more inexperienced.

But I'd consider 8-8 a successful season, especially if we see real development from Stidham and the young guys, because that means the following years should be much improved.

But the days of winning 12 games a year and dominating the division year in and year out, making virtually every AFCCG are obviously over, never to return. That was a once-in-a-lifetime run. Now we are like everyone else, hoping to be competitive for the division, hoping to win it every few years, hoping to make it to the AFCCG once in a while, and maybe even winning a Super Bowl from time to time. That's about the best we can expect moving forward. The Pats' run from 2001-2019 is never ever happening again for the Patriots or any other franchise.

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amfootball said:

Much depends on the defense. If it is anywhere close to what it was last year than the Pats can have a winning season and contend for the East. I do think opponents, especially our divisional opponents will come in over confident and feel the pressure to win now that Brady is gone. Heck, you saw the pressure get to Buffalo last year when they had a chance at the division in late Dec. I do think that will work to the Pats advantage as if they are able to hold their own then the division will get jittery especially if Stidham looks solid.

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chris_in_sunnyvale said:

In 2000, the Pats went 5-11 in a pretty good AFCE, but lost 9 games by one score. That team converted only 35% of third downs (24th in league) and allowed 43.5% (28th). Red zone TD conversion rates were 43.4% for (24th) and 51.9% against (18th).

In 2001, the 3rd down conversion rates flipped: 41.2% for (8th) and 37.2% (15th) against. More noticeable was the improvement in red zone TD conversion rates, particularly on D: 48.1% for (16th) and 38.8% against (3rd).

I believe the 2020 Pats are closer to the 2001 team than the 2000 team solely due to the D, but I also think the O will be better than the 2000 offense in those key 3rd down and red zone TD situations. The 2000 team likely would have flipped a few of the close losses with marginally improved 3rd down and red zone TD differential that I think the 2020 team offers. With the midpoint between 2000 and 2001 win totals being 8 games, I think the 2020 team at a minimum splits the difference for 8-8 with a decent chance at 10 wins.

Regards,
Chris

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chris_in_sunnyvale said:

In 2000, the Pats went 5-11 in a pretty good AFCE, but lost 9 games by one score. That team converted only 35% of third downs (24th in league) and allowed 43.5% (28th). Red zone TD conversion rates were 43.4% for (24th) and 51.9% against (18th).

In 2001, the 3rd down conversion rates flipped: 41.2% for (8th) and 37.2% (15th) against. More noticeable was the improvement in red zone TD conversion rates, particularly on D: 48.1% for (16th) and 38.8% against (3rd).

I believe the 2020 Pats are closer to the 2001 team than the 2000 team solely due to the D, but I also think the O will be better than the 2000 offense in those key 3rd down and red zone TD situations. The 2000 team likely would have flipped a few of the close losses with marginally improved 3rd down and red zone TD differential that I think the 2020 team offers. With the midpoint between 2000 and 2001 win totals being 8 games, I think the 2020 team at a minimum splits the difference for 8-8 with a decent chance at 10 wins.

Regards,
Chris

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Keyser Söze said:

If he is you really know we’re tanking for Lawrence.

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Biffins said:

That’s what Jets thought after Namath left.

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1960Pats said:

Throw in a mad dog's bite and ferociousness.

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