FanDuel: Pats -190 to sign Cam Newton (now +220)

I'm sure if the Patriots have any real interest in Cam they are being secretive about it

Deus Irae said:

Makes sense, if Thuney is moved

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Agree wholeheartedly.
If we drink the "we thought player x would give us the best chance to win" Koolaid, then the signing of Newton, whom I am NOT a fan of, who be the ultimately BB roll of the dice with some unique personalities. He took a shot on the sulking Albert Haynesworth. Dillon?, Talib? and who here can say that Chad #85 was not a self-promoter?

How many on this site actually believe Stidham is a better QB than Newton? I don't like Netwon at all but if he wins games I will hold my nose.

I would say the odds of a healthy Netwon wins us 2 games this year by himself via pass or run.
I do want to here any He gives us the best chance anymore unless you follow your own preaching.

If they do not get Newton and Stidam wins I will be happy to get my butt kicked but it ain't happening.
DW Toys
P.S. We have to move or sign Thuney. Love to keep em but it is not feasible. Here are some other options people will hate:

Thuney for Rosen and a 2021 3rd from Miami. I know I will have torches and pitchforks but Rosen would be the most talented QB on the Pats day 1. Can he be straightened out? The trade is more likely because Flores knows Thuney. They added depth on the interior but not a today starter. The Dolphins have the CAP.

Tribusky for Thuney? Blasphemy you say? The kid had a great 2018. He's young. He's on the last year of his rookie deal, so cheap. Again, he would be out most talented QB that needs repair but it helps our CAP and the Bears have an interior line need even post Draft. Thuney $15mm versus $9mm for Trubisky.
Both Mahomes and Trubisky came in 2017. Trubisky has 6 game-winning Drives since and Mahomes has 4...yeh unbelievable. He has won 20 Games and lost 11.
If Trubisky does not work his contract is over. The Bears need interior help pronto.
If Josh can get this kid right, this is a steal.
DW Toys

The odds of the Patriots signing Cam Newton are lower than Ray Lewis being innocent.

cupofjoe1962 said:

If we were to sign Newton it will probably happen after May 7th.

I believe May 7th is the cutoff for free agents to count against your comp picks.

If we signed Newton before that we would lose our Brady 3rd round comp pick next year.

With the odds being -190, somebody knows something.

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I believe that deadline has been moved up in the new CBA, and is now today at 4 PM ET.

When I see those odds it makes me think...

sb1 said:

Speaking of small sample size how did Brady’s final pass as a Patriot turn out?

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Or Brady's first 4 passes?

primetime said:

I agree, but if that's the case, why wouldn't he sign the player at the most important position in football who gives the team the best chance to succeed?

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do you think Cam would come in and be the hard worker BB requires? Somehow I don't get that vibe from him

FWIW, here's Cam working out as recently as April 1st:



At 3:19, he throws a ball deep down the sideline....and he does push ups using a resistance band with apparently no issues...

mgteich said:

OK, and who should we bring in to give Stidham that compensation, certainly not a UDFA quarterback?

Rosen?

Dalton?

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We’ve already got a former NFL starting QB on the roster. No need to bring in another flawed journeyman QB when there’s already one in the house.

primetime said:

Cam Newton completed 67.9% of his passes in 2018 for 24 TDs and 13 INTs, while adding 500 yards on the ground for 4 more TDs. Tom Brady has never completed more than 67.4% of his passes in any year. He missed most of last season with an injury but he was actually very good in 2018, this pervasive narrative that he's washed up just doesn't jell with the facts. Cody Kessler, on the other hand, does actually really suck.

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Not true...Brady completed exactly 67.4% of his attempts in 2016 & 69% in 2007...Not here to knock Cam, just stating the isolated fact that Brady did indeed match/exceed 67% of his attempts during those respective seasons.

UptownPatsFan said:

Lies...Brady completed exactly 67.4% of his attempts in 2016 & 69% in 2007...Not here to knock Cam, just stating the isolated fact that Brady did indeed match/exceed 67% of his attempts during those respective seasons.

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Is your point that Newton and Brady have been close to the same quarterbacks when measured by percentage of attempts completed?

mgteich said:

Is your point that Newton and Brady have been close to the same quarterbacks when measured by percentage of attempts completed?

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No, I clearly stated my agenda above, but ultimately we don’t even have go back and forth regarding that statement because we all know Brady is the FAR superior QB and has been before and every. single. season. since 2011 when Newton arrived on the scene.

UptownPatsFan said:

No, I clearly stated my agenda above, but ultimately we don’t even have go back and forth regarding that statement because we all know Brady is the FAR superior QB and has been every. single. season. since 2011 when Newton arrived on the scene.

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Brady? You mean the guy who plays for Tampa?

Cam is a beast physically I don't know I have no doubt you can win with him.
3 problems
1. How much money?
2. Ego locker room fit?
3. Your killing Stidhams confidence as well as stunting his career.

Its tough if you don't think Stidham is the guy you should absolutely bring in Cam.

So unless Pariots are playing this incredibly close to the vest.
All reports have been the Patriots have little to NO INTEREST.

We have to believe that is the case.

primetime said:

Brady? You mean the guy who plays for Tampa?

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No brady the guy you incorrectly stated his high completion % mark.

ChrisR2223 said:

Its tough if you don't think Stidham is the guy you should absolutely bring in Cam.

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It is impossible to know if he is a potential franchise QB until he actually plays a couple of NFL games. Even if he is lighting it up in practice that doesn't mean everything will translate 100% to game days.

The only thing we can kinda read from how the Pats have handled the QB situation is that he is looking promising on the practice field. In other words he has not shown anything to exclude him. But this evaluation will ideally go on for the entire season unless he vomits over himself consistently and repeatedly in spectacular fashion in the first 4-5 games.

ChrisR2223 said:

So unless Pariots are playing this incredibly close to the vest.
All reports have been the Patriots have little to NO INTEREST.

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The reports about no interest don't mean much. If you remember absolutely nobody had any idea the Pats would swing in like an ninja and sign Gilmore in 2017. It is just weird that a betting site adjusted the odds so much. That usually indicates some kind of information from trusted sources.

Ring 6 said:

No brady the guy you incorrectly stated his high completion % mark.

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Oh no, you got me on a pedantic point. I confess my sins.

Comparing Cam and Brady is pointless, in any case. Brady's gone and he ain't coming back. The question is whether Cam would be better than Stidham.

primetime said:

Oh no, you got me on a pedantic point. I confess my sins.

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No it was the exact reason for his post, pointing out your mistake. (The first one)

Comparing Cam and Brady is pointless, in any case. Brady's gone and he ain't coming back. The question is whether Cam would be better than Stidham.

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He compared them because someone asked him if he was comparing them.

I’ve already addressed newton, remember, it’s the post that caused you to stop responding to our discussion.

Ring 6 said:

No it was the exact reason for his post, pointing out your mistake. (The first one)


He compared them because someone asked him if he was comparing them.

I’ve already addressed newton, remember, it’s the post that caused you to stop responding to our discussion.

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I mean, what do you want me to say? You were insisting he wasn't accurate and then explaining away with high completion percentage by saying all his throws were to McCaffrey, which wasn't true, he was in the middle of the pack in air yards per intended target that year. This is like the time you insisted Lamar Jackson should play wide receiver because he wasn't accurate, then he was MVP of the league two years later. We get it, you don't like black quarterbacks and you'll make up reasons to justify it, it's well-documented.

I know you think having the last word makes you right, there are literally tens of thousands of posts demonstrating that, but mostly it just makes you sad and pathetic.

Hyped said:

FWIW, here's Cam working out as recently as April 1st:



At 3:19, he throws a ball deep down the sideline....and he does push ups using a resistance band with apparently no issues...

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I don’t doubt he’s in great shape, physically. My question is whether he’s mush, mentally. He’s taken a lot of head blows over his career.