DRAFT Official Draft Day LIVE Discussion Thread - Night 2

It’s a very very poor mans version but Asiasi-Keene will hopefully get utilised a little like Gronk-Hernandez.

manxman2601 said:

As you know every teams board, can I have a look

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I just see it hard to justify when the draft is weak at TE, and the consensus for this particular player seems to be round 5 or 6. Impossible to know every team's board, but you could use that logic to justify any reach. I'm not taking the draft as seriously/angrily as others though, so hopefully it turns out well.

sircole said:

Keene is one of @captain stone favorite TEs...I don't know if he'll like the fact that we drafted him in the third.

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I'm sure he'll lambaste BB again and find some reason to whine about it.

manxman2601 said:

Matt Cassell took us to 11-5.

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Is this a serious post? Cassel had Moss and Welker. A group of offensive talent responsible for taking us to 18-1. Our offensive group going into this year is the worst in 20 years. Absolutely ridiculous comparison.

Deus Irae said:

Right now, generically speaking, and unless Stidham is already veteran starter level, this is a 2-3 win offense, at best.

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I mean if we can effectively run the football... that will change a lot.

David Andrews is back. Don’t forget that.

Here is my contribution to the thread last night:

"Let's face it, the real reason the Pats traded out of the first round is that they couldn't find any fans to put on the screen behind Roger Goodell who wouldn't be giving him the finger when he turned around to announce the pick.
Seriously, is there anyone more cringe-worthy awkward than that guy?"

Did you SEE the Pats fans behind Goodell when the Pats chose the 2nd tight end? All booing and giving a thumbs down to Rodger the Dodger. Priceless. Thank you Pats fans.

long distance said:

It does. They were available

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And BB preferred them to others who were available. Such as Trautman.

Deus Irae said:

Right now, generically speaking, and unless Stidham is already veteran starter level, this is a 2-3 win offense, at best.

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With this defense? Come on. We’re a worse team than last years Dolphins?

If we pick up a QB tomorrow I hope its Luton despite the injury history

hornetfb85 said:

I would almost guarantee we pick somewhere in the 4th tomorrow.

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For a kicker.

Not being facetious. We need a really good kicker.

ausbacker said:

The *****ing and moaning of some is insufferable today. The Pats just added a Safety (need), two Linebackers (need), and two Tight Ends (need). Outside of clear home run picks, all selections are speculative and right now, I'm damn happy Bill and Caserio see what we all see and subsequently, are addressing the damn needs.

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I agree with you for the most part though I didn't see Safety as a need with DMac, Phillips, Chung, etc, back there. And the potential for them to move JMAC back to safety as well..

trueblue81 said:

Keene over Trautman and the Bryant’s? AND we traded up for him? This is a strange one. Would have preferred one of the WRs still on the board.

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Look, BB is not just after skills here, he is looking for certain mindset, those who can take hard coaching, mentally tough. I tend to see his picks from that lens and it makes it easier for me to stomach.

TBR said:

I just see it hard to justify when the draft is weak at TE, and the consensus for this particular player seems to be round 5 or 6. Impossible to know every team's board, but you could use that logic to justify any reach. I'm not taking the draft as seriously/angrily as others though, so hopefully it turns out well.

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Just because CBS has a player ranked somewhere, doesn’t mean the teams have.

3 athletic, versatile guys on D, 2 big TE's for the O....great day.

Saints get Ruiz, Baun, and Trautman. The Captain Stone of the Saints fanbase is doing cartwheels right now. Our Captain Stone ... not so much I'm afraid

n6249c said:

And now NO drafts a TE. Did BB know something that convinced him to trade up?

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NO traded up to get there. I guess BB's picking two TEs spooked them into thinking there was a run on TE and they had to move up.

Joey007 said:

I mean if we can effectively run the football... that will change a lot.

David Andrews is back. Don’t forget that.

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I'm not saying the team's going 0-16. I'm saying that, as of now, it's a team that could finish anywhere from 1 to 4 in the division. And anyone who tells you that the team will win "at least", or "no more than" is just talking out of their ass.

n6249c said:

And now NO drafts a TE. Did BB know something that convinced him to trade up?

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This was where the TEs tended to go in most of the mock draft simulations I did. The order of TEs going was different than what I was expecting, though.

Just need DT, DT and some little tenacious WR and probably a kicker. Unless they plan to bring Ghost back.

manxman2601 said:

It’s a very very poor mans version but Asiasi-Keene will hopefully get utilised a little like Gronk-Hernandez.

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Yeah, it sucks because I actually do want to make that comparison. The best parts of Asiasi's game do resemble some of Gronk's strengths, and the best parts of Keene's game seem to be similar to Hernandez's (I didn't watch VT last year so I can't say). They're not in the same ballpark as athletic prospects, though, so in addition to feeling like kind of a lazy comparison it also feels misleadingly sensationalistic. So I avoided making at all because you'd have to attach like 5 disclaimers to it and people would still misinterpret it and straw-man the **** out of you.