[Old 2020 thread] NFL Free Agency/Trade Rumors:

UptownPatsFan said:

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Too bad we lack the cap space it would take to lure him.

O.J. Howard Trade Rumors: Bucs' Asking Price 'Too High' Entering 2020 NFL Draft

Obviously I don’t think he’d ever agree to do this, but am I crazy for thinking that using Cam Newton in this offense in the Taysom Hill role would be amazing?

mgteich said:

The length of contract is exactly the same. Total compensation is exactly the same. Dead money is increased only if a player is cut or traded before the end of his contract.

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Sure, but do you really feel comfortable tacking another year onto Gilmore, Cannon or Mason? I guess you would with Gilmore, but that’s it for me.

supafly said:

Sure, but do you really feel comfortable tacking another year onto Gilmore, Cannon or Mason? I guess you would with Gilmore, but that’s it for me.

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Restructures do NOT change the length of contracts.

Extensions add to the length of contracts.

mgteich said:

Restructures do NOT change the length of contracts.

Extensions add to the length of contracts.

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For the purpose of dead cap hits they do. It feels like your argument is a bit misleading, that’s all.

UptownPatsFan said:

O.J. Howard Trade Rumors: Bucs' Asking Price 'Too High' Entering 2020 NFL Draft

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He blocks like Jane. No thanks. Sure he can catch well, year before he was great at it, last season not so much due to either playcalling or inability to get open. Going into year 3 and he looks no better at blocking than he did in college. Kelce who isn’t great at blocking looks like Gronkowski compared to this guy. Ask any Good blocking te and every single one of them will tell you technique and effort is the key. He don’t show it.

Patriot Missile said:

He blocks like Jane. No thanks. Sure he can catch well, year before he was great at it, last season not so much due to either playcalling or inability to get open. Going into year 3 and he looks no better at blocking than he did in college. Kelce who isn’t great at blocking looks like Gronkowski compared to this guy. Ask any Good blocking te and every single one of them will tell you technique and effort is the key. He don’t show it.

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What the hell are you talking about??? He’s one of
(if not the best) the best blocking TEs in the league. Along with Kittle, Nick Boyle, Hunter Henry etc....You’re really showing your lack of credibility. I’m done here.

This O.J. Howard stat proves he was an effective tight end this year

The Curious Case of O.J. Howard

UptownPatsFan said:

What the hell are you talking about??? He’s one of
(if not the best) the best blocking TEs in the league. Along with Kittle, Nick Boyle, Hunter Henry etc....You’re really showing your lack of credibility. I’m done here.

This O.J. Howard stat proves he was an effective tight end this year

The Curious Case of O.J. Howard

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He's definitely top 3-10 depending on your preference. Probably consensus 3-6?

Throw Goedert in there as well, he's a great blocker. I think he's as good as anyone. Fells is great as well. He's like an extra OL. Burton actually isn't bad. He's been pretty good there too.

UptownPatsFan said:

O.J. Howard Trade Rumors: Bucs' Asking Price 'Too High' Entering 2020 NFL Draft

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Tampa needs to get over themselves and move on already same crap from last year.

Bradyking12 said:

Tampa needs to get over themselves and move on already same crap from last year.

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Maybe we trade for Howard and draft Trautman.

The Patriots will trade up for Delpit. He will be another BB second round bust
who missed 20 tackles.

Feels like a Jalen Hurts day.

Patriot Missile said:

He blocks like Jane. No thanks. Sure he can catch well, year before he was great at it, last season not so much due to either playcalling or inability to get open. Going into year 3 and he looks no better at blocking than he did in college. Kelce who isn’t great at blocking looks like Gronkowski compared to this guy. Ask any Good blocking te and every single one of them will tell you technique and effort is the key. He don’t show it.

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Actually a very good blocker, but a lack of consistent effort landed him in the dog house in TB with Arians.

FoxboroFlyer said:

Feels like a Jalen Hurts day.

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I feel like it’s Hurts or we are stacking up on receivers and tight ends.
We need to take at least 2 tight ends draft or trade and at least 2 receivers.
Wouldn’t be shocked to see BB draft 2 safeties as well.
If we really want Hurts we can pry trade down and still get him bottom of the second or begining of the third.

skinnydog said:

Actually a very good blocker, but a lack of consistent effort landed him in the dog house in TB with Arians.

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Howard is tempting I want to give Stidham or who ever the QB is going to be plenty of weapons.
I really hope Lock isn’t a much better pro than Stidham.
They were my 2 top QBs.
It sure looks like Denver is giving Lock a winning cast.
We really need to give Jarret weapons.

ChrisR2223 said:

I feel like it’s Hurts or we are stacking up on receivers and tight ends.
We need to take at least 2 tight ends draft or trade and at least 2 receivers.
Wouldn’t be shocked to see BB draft 2 safeties as well.
If we really want Hurts we can pry trade down and still get him bottom of the second or begining of the third.

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Still feel like Hurts is the pick at 37.