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Escapism is important, absolutely. Why do you think I come to the site? I haven’t criticized a single post because of what is going on until now.

There is a difference between “Free agent possibilities for the Pats” and “I’ve written about how depressed I am about Tom Brady leaving ad nauseam in other thread and I realize that people are dying right now but here’s a new thread about my Tom Brady depression and how we can all get through this”

You don't know the guy or what he's going through.

EDIT - Toned it down

If you think that my post was self-important you’re a moron, Comrade, but now that you mention it, we are pretty f*cking important, especially people like my wife and her colleagues/coworkers. Hopefully, you will never have to find out how important. It is sad that it has taken a pandemic for some to regain respect for healthcare workers.

Case in point, or rather, bold. Right now, you're important. Ten years from now, they'll have pumped out tens of thousands just like you. What you do today, every life you save, will be forgotten by society writ large in a few years, if not much sooner.

It's sad that it takes a fire for people to appreciate firefighters, or a terror attack to appreciate the military, or a food shortage to appreciate farmers, but that's how society works. A lot of us are doing **** that goes really ****ing unappreciated until it doesn't. That's part of the life of service and I realize a lot of Americans right now are experiencing a true crisis for the first time...maybe you should too, if you're not one of those.

You don't have to listen to me. I'm sure you won't. But if I were in you shoes, I'd crack on and not worry about how important you are, or what other people realize or don't realize about your sacrifice and service. It's a quick way to get bitter, really fast.
 
Always viewed depression as something I do not have complete control over as it has biological tenets. Fortunately, when it occurs usually recognize it and figure out how to turn that "dark"corner.

I am not down because Brady left, it was time for him to retire after the last SB win instead he carried on, why?? As much as I love the guy ego's often get in the way of common sense, he did not want to go to OTA's as it interfered with "family time". He could have walked away from the Pats gracefully and with highest honors, instead he is moving on to Florida for a season in the sun uprooting his family. To prove what he can win another SB with another team?? Maybe he can or maybe he cannot we may see if this virus ever subsides...

We have always lived by the mantra that it is better for a player to move on a year early, rather than a year too late.. after last year not sure I have the same level of confidence in #12 than I did previously.
Tommy's mid life crisis. We are all living it.
 
I'm excited to watch football without Brady, it is a new beginning and lamenting the loss of Brady seems like a poor use of my time.

I really enjoyed the last 20 years, the number of AFC championship games I attended has been obscene, but life goes on.
 
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Get a ****ing grip. Some escapism is good for people's mental health.

Sincerely appreciate all you guys are doing, but a lot of us are in the **** right now, and we're not being self-important about it. Have some class.
Right?? Cheezus. I can't have 15 minutes of Crona-free escapism? Umm ok. I get that we are in the middle of what might be the biggest crisis of our lifetimes. Can I have a minute and wish I had football?

I appreciate their hard work, and this is just the beginning, but please don't yell at me. I washed my hands. Rant over.

I think Tommy is tone deaf right now, with his endless TB12 posts. Stop. He's making it very easy for me to get over the departure.
 
There are no active sports. What are you doing here posting, with these weighty cares in your life? A bit ironic to call another out, don't you think?

Having been in actual combat/war , as many here have, you chose your profession, for whatever reasons those may be (money, helping other, etc.). I chose mine in the military, and I chose it now working everyday at the border (we are essential).

I respect the work of physicians everyday, if you are actually that and not going for dramatic fiction. Everybody is stressed out. I get it. If you are this stressed out, then stay at home. Leave your job. It doesn't sound like you are under military orders. Coming here to shame others or trumpet your sacrifice does not speak well of you, if you are what you claim to be. It definitely doesn't sound like a practicing doctor, as you claim to be.

An actual medical professional must have studied a little psychology, and dealt with individual patient reactions (or over-reactions, for example, to a sprained ankle) to what in reality may be trivial physical malady. There is a thing called empathy, which is appropriate for those with physical issues and psychological issues. If you don't understand that point - that people think and feel things differently from one another - then I submit you are in the wrong profession.

There are many in this world suffering more greatly than you (people die horribly in poverty everyday - I doubt you can make that claim), so disclaim your notion that this event affects only you and demonstrate the empathy that any real medical professional should have been trained to display. This temporary event (this is not the end of days, it is a virus), whether weeks or months in duration, would be much easier for all if more people could do that.
When my son was ten years old he had a brain anyeurism and several other complications (it was caused by a bad kidney that raised his blood pressure and kidney had to be removed on top of brain surgery and his appendix went at the same time.). My wife and I practically lived at the hospital. My dad had me get out for awhile and we went to his apartment and we watched the Patriots. The emotional release was enormous. I was screaming at the top of my lungs and standing up like I was at the game. It was fantastic therapy I'll never forget.
 
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I think Tommy is tone deaf right now, with his endless TB12 posts. Stop. He's making it very easy for me to get over the departure.

Yeah, there were aspects of who he is that I looked away from because he was, well, "my GOAT QB". And I wasn't terribly upset about him heading off to FL to work through the fact that it is basically over for him, rather than do it in NE. As his Dad predicted years ago, "it will come to an end and it won't be pretty."

But this latest round of "look at me" plus his wife posting from their beach in Costa Rica, at this moment in human history, has me completely turned off. And as you say, it has made the transition to the next phase of Patriot's fandom easier. The biggest challenge will be the fact that the Patriots play in the NFL.
 
TB gave me far more as a fan than I ever dreamed, so I'm able to find closure. While it'd have been nice for him to end his career in NE, he won't be playing for too much longer anyway, and he'll always be remembered as a Patriot.

This past year I lost my Dad & my amazing cat buddy of 20 years, and I had a long-term, and what I thought was close, friendship come to an ugly end. That kind of put things in perspective for me.

I also find the symmetry unexpectedly reassuring - so many big chapters of my life wrapping up at once, such a strong sense of completion. Time to reboot.

My dad got sick in 1994 and was told that he had 5 months to live. I found perspective when we were getting the news and I saw a mother, father and their 9 year old son in the next cubicle sobbing as they were getting the same news about the boy.

Good luck going forward.
 
I'm fine man. Thanks for asking. Hope you are ok as well.

I think everyone is under stress at some level. Overall I'm good. Fam is good. Dog was really sick last week and my in-warranty hot water tank caught fire earlier this week (now replaced).

Just trying to make sure my folks (in their 70s) with some immune-deficiency issues don't do something stupid.

Seriously?! I have a six month old water heater. Thought I was doing the right thing, replacing it before the old one died, while I had a plumber around anyway. So thanks for adding to my list of things to worry about with something that would otherwise have never been on my radar!

Otherwise, all good here, so far. Wife has to work a few days a week and both she and I are 60'ish with histories of pneumonia, so there's some anxiety.
 
Seriously?! I have a six month old water heater. Thought I was doing the right thing, replacing it before the old one died, while I had a plumber around anyway. So thanks for adding to my list of things to worry about with something that would otherwise have never been on my radar!

Otherwise, all good here, so far. Wife has to work a few days a week and both she and I are 60'ish with histories of pneumonia, so there's some anxiety.
This was my 2nd tank from the same mfg. Brand new one w/ lifetime warranty installed 2017. 1st one leaked in 2019 and last week I came home from golf, went downstairs as Mrs RW asked to get some milk from the overflow fridge and smelt plastic burning. Saw a little smoke coming out. Hit the breakers to the tank and threw some Arm & Hammer on the fire i got from the fridge. Thankfully the fire was small.

NFWIH I went with the same tank a 3rd time so went w/ a different brand. $1600 but he says i'm the 5th one this happened to so he thinks they'll cut me a check for the cost of the new tank (mfg afraid of lawsuit I guess). Thankfully my plumber is a good friend of mine and hes not charging me labor.

Brand was HTP.

Compared to the world's problems right now, very minor but its annoying as hell.
 
Yeah, there were aspects of who he is that I looked away from because he was, well, "my GOAT QB". And I wasn't terribly upset about him heading off to FL to work through the fact that it is basically over for him, rather than do it in NE. As his Dad predicted years ago, "it will come to an end and it won't be pretty."

But this latest round of "look at me" plus his wife posting from their beach in Costa Rica, at this moment in human history, has me completely turned off. And as you say, it has made the transition to the next phase of Patriot's fandom easier. The biggest challenge will be the fact that the Patriots play in the NFL.
I have said for years that if he played for another team, I would 100% hate him. Whining about phantom flags, ranting at refs, the Captain America persona, the endless winning. But he was ours and there was no one like him.

When he started, he was one of us. 6th rounder, no one respected, the whole chip on the shoulder thing. Somewhere along the line, he became bigger than life. Jet setting to Costa Rica, playing catch on yachts in Monaco during F1 weeks... chit like that. He's just... he's not one of us anymore.
 
ARE YOU F*CKING KIDDING ME WITH THIS THREAD?

New York is burning, Massachusetts may be next and you make a thread asking who else is still depressed about losing Tom Brady and how are they coping with this tragedy? Are you really that tone deaf?

My wife and I are both physicians. My wife is a pulmonologist and intensive care unit doctor and is trying to finalize her will (while still going to work), because if she gets sick from one of her patients she won’t have the ability to do it emergently. Many doctors and nurses who work in ER and ICUs are doing the same.

Here’s a message from the two of us and all doctors, nurses, nurse anesthetists, nurse practitioners, physicians assistants, respiratory therapists and hospital ancillary staff: F*CK OFF, YOU OBLIVIOUS, SELF-ABSORBED C*NT.

You realize most people watch sports and entertainment to disengage from the world for a while. And that is what this place is for.

Appreciate your stress and what you are doing. But seriously leave that **** at the door.
 
We're training camp 2001 Brady fans. Loved every moment of his career here.
Losing him has not been emotional to me. Eventually age forces everyone retire. Just happened a year or 2 earlier with departure to Tampa. I believe he's at peace with his decision and I'm SO thankful to his 2 decades here making the franchise great.
We likely won't have the stress of worrying about one seed or playoff game stress for a season or so.
It is what it is.
 
ARE YOU F*CKING KIDDING ME WITH THIS THREAD?

New York is burning, Massachusetts may be next and you make a thread asking who else is still depressed about losing Tom Brady and how are they coping with this tragedy? Are you really that tone deaf?

My wife and I are both physicians. My wife is a pulmonologist and intensive care unit doctor and is trying to finalize her will (while still going to work), because if she gets sick from one of her patients she won’t have the ability to do it emergently. Many doctors and nurses who work in ER and ICUs are doing the same.

Here’s a message from the two of us and all doctors, nurses, nurse anesthetists, nurse practitioners, physicians assistants, respiratory therapists and hospital ancillary staff: F*CK OFF, YOU OBLIVIOUS, SELF-ABSORBED C*NT.

What are you doing spending your time on a football forum?
You should apologize for that horrible post.
 
Let it go. Who hasn't said something atypical under severe emotional stress.
Back on topic.
 
There are no active sports. What are you doing here posting, with these weighty cares in your life? A bit ironic to call another out, don't you think?

Having been in actual combat/war , as many here have, you chose your profession, for whatever reasons those may be (money, helping other, etc.). I chose mine in the military, and I chose it now working everyday at the border (we are essential).

I respect the work of physicians everyday, if you are actually that and not going for dramatic fiction. Everybody is stressed out. I get it. If you are this stressed out, then stay at home. Leave your job. It doesn't sound like you are under military orders. Coming here to shame others or trumpet your sacrifice does not speak well of you, if you are what you claim to be. It definitely doesn't sound like a practicing doctor, as you claim to be.

An actual medical professional must have studied a little psychology, and dealt with individual patient reactions (or over-reactions, for example, to a sprained ankle) to what in reality may be trivial physical malady. There is a thing called empathy, which is appropriate for those with physical issues and psychological issues. If you don't understand that point - that people think and feel things differently from one another - then I submit you are in the wrong profession.

There are many in this world suffering more greatly than you (people die horribly in poverty everyday - I doubt you can make that claim), so disclaim your notion that this event affects only you and demonstrate the empathy that any real medical professional should have been trained to display. This temporary event (this is not the end of days, it is a virus), whether weeks or months in duration, would be much easier for all if more people could do that.

Yeah, I’m totally making this just about me. Hit the nail on the head there, Private.

“Many doctors and nurses who work in ER and ICUs are doing the same.”

“Here’s a message from the two of us and all doctors, nurses, nurse anesthetists, nurse practitioners, physicians assistants, respiratory therapists and hospital ancillary staff”

“but haven’t donated to a local hospital. How about your family and friends? If you do maybe it’s time to do the right thing.”


What am I doing at home posting on this site?
Like many across the country, I am stuck at home far more often than I want to be. I am not seeing patients in the office and cannot do (and should not be doing) elective procedures, so as not to contribute to the spread of the virus. I still go to the hospital when I am on call for my specialty and when emergency procedures necessary. The cases that I perform are some of the highest risk for transmission of the virus. I am self-employed and have stopped taking a salary so that my staff can continue to be paid in full, along with their benefits. I am still seeing patients from home using telemedicine. I am fully aware that my wife and I are far luckier than others financially and can weather this storm in the short term, but that doesn’t mean that it is not stressful to have a $15,000 bill to pay for overhead every month with virtually no money coming in. Trust me, I would love to be the one going into work in the areas of highest exposure, if it would mean that my wife could stay home but that is not how medical specialties work.

It is interesting that you list “make money” first when talking about why I may have gone into medicine. It reveals your bias about doctors, that we choose our profession because of money. It also reveals your ignorance. I could say that you chose to go into the military and now work on the border because you are not smart enough or did not work hard enough in school, so your options were limited, that would also be ignorant and unfair. The fact is that many doctors could have made made a lot more money and simultaneously have had an easier lifestyle, with less training and without the medical school debts, not to mention the constant risk of frivolous lawsuits. There are some doctors who are money hungry and do abuse the system for their financial gain but that is a very small percentage. Five years ago I resigned from the medical staff of a hospital out of protest because administration refused to get ride of a physician who was practicing poor quality, unethical medicine. That decision probably cost me a minimum of $100,000 due to disruption of my practice.....so to answer your question, no, I did not go into medicine because of money.

As for your question about empathy, I have an abundance of it. I have empathy for those who are sick or who have died from this terrible virus, for their family members and close friends, for the healthcare workers putting their lives at risk and whose government is failing to protect them and for those who have lost their jobs and are struggling to pay their bills. That means that I have no empathy left over for someone who can’t stop talking about how tragic it is that we lost our aging, declining quarterback.

“Having been in actual combat/war”.....Do you actually believe that you have to hold a gun in order to be an actual combat/war? If you do then you really are a meathead.B2081AAC-D55A-4709-AEEA-EC436933AB1A.jpeg
This came by email today. You don’t think that the people working in those ERs and ICUs in New York City are at war? There is no difference between what is going on in those hospitals and what you consider to be “actual combat”. There is no difference between a nurse or physician being exposed to an infected patient without access to the proper protective equipment and a soldier going into battle without his/her protective equipment. I/we (physicians) would never minimize the risk that that those in the military face and the sacrifices that they make, so you should be ashamed if you do the same for healthcare workers.

“This temporary event (this is not the end of days, it is a virus)”. Of all the dumb statements in your post, this is the dumbest, and the most dangerous. You have been listening too much to President Dotard. It shows you don’t have a ****ing clue what is going on right now, probably because you have not been affected by it yet. It sounds like you are still in the “this is overblown” phase or maybe you’re still stuck in the “this is a hoax” phase. If you were younger you probably would’ve been one of those idiots partying on the beach in Florida for spring break, before bringing the infection back to your home community. Wake up, dip sh*t (and any of you who liked his post) before its too late. I’ll tell you a little secret....it may already be too late.
 
hmm.......this punchiness is infesting other threads......looks like a puddle of gasoline.......maybe I'll throw a match in it.......naaahhhhhh, I'll wait for @KontradictioN to stand in it first
 
I don't give a crap about Tom Brady......his metrosexual act was cute for awhile, but then all the dude triggered was an eyeroll

I watched him for 20 years and have zero interest in how he does on another team.

I am looking forward to watching a new team be born
 
What are you doing spending your time on a football forum?
You should apologize for that horrible post.

I already answered your question in another post.

And no, I won’t. After hearing some details about the OP’s history, I feel even better about using the expletives.
 
Spanish doctors are forced to choose who to let die - The Boston Globe

Just a virus, right MassPat38? The same thing is happening in Italy. We now have more cases of coronavirus in the US than any other country in the world, and those numbers are probably underestimating the true incidence, because we are still behind on testing.

Do you have any family members over the age of 70 in your life whom you love? If they get sick, just remind them that it’s not the end of the world. That’ll make it better. You can even send them a lollipop from the border.
 
@Patsgofor4

The original Coronavirus thread got shut down, but I can tell you that about 90% of the posters were taking it very, very seriously and there was backlash for those who were still downplaying it. One of the posters there is in Italy.

The “you’re in to make money” sentiment is also not shared by many. Being a doctor is often at a great sacrifice, and there are better ways to make a ton of money.
 
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