Tom Brady press conference at 12 noon today

Ras-IR Dowling · Mar 24, 2020

bresna said:
Who effin' cares? Why is this on the Patriots forum?

Seriously?

Wax Frog · Mar 24, 2020

Triumph said:

Now THERE'S an alt-timeline I couldn't deal with!

Wax Frog · Mar 24, 2020

NJPatsfan26 said:
Tom who?

Turn the page

I wouldn't put it quite that bluntly, but yeah, that. As JE might say, that was a hell of a story, but it's time to take a deep breath and see what BB's next book is about.

It also helps me to remind myself that nearly half of my Pats fan history featured non-teebee-cubies

RobertWeathers · Mar 24, 2020

Hammer of Thor said:
Arians isn’t Belichick but he isn’t terrible strategy wise either. His issue is relationships. It amuses me that people talk about coaching decisions BB makes as being about his arrogance/ego when everyone who has spoken about BB thinks he’s as ego-free as they come. Arians, on the other hand, is an egomaniac. For as much as he’s heralded as the QB whisperer, he’s directed the adulation towards himself and throws players under the bus. It’ll be interesting to see how Brady handles that when it rears its ugly head.

I think Ariens is a fairly competent coach but I lost all respect for him with his comments after we beat them in the 2016 opener. He blamed everyone for the loss except himself. The GM and the owner did the same thing. They all bashed the players.

Thats just crap leadership.

Ice_Ice_Brady · Mar 24, 2020

Hammer of Thor said:
Arians isn’t Belichick but he isn’t terrible strategy wise either. His issue is relationships. It amuses me that people talk about coaching decisions BB makes as being about his arrogance/ego when everyone who has spoken about BB thinks he’s as ego-free as they come. Arians, on the other hand, is an egomaniac. For as much as he’s heralded as the QB whisperer, he’s directed the adulation towards himself and throws players under the bus. It’ll be interesting to see how Brady handles that when it rears its ugly head.

Exactly. I hate Arians.

Wax Frog · Mar 24, 2020

Steve:Section 102 said:
He's transitioning to a new team. He's looking forward to blah blah blah, not talking about the past. I am transitioning to Stid. He's not dead to me, but he's not my team's QB. He's moving on. Me too. I am ready for the excitement of tuning in on Sunday to see what actually happens with the new guy.

Yep. All the gratitude in the world for TB, and best wishes for his future endeavors, but I was thoroughly seduced back in '85, so I'm all about the laundry til my dying day.

For reasons that I won't bother to elaborate (personal ones that belong in TL : DR hell), for far too long I felt pressure for my team of choice to succeed. Now, thanks to the TB era, they've far exceeded that need, so I have closure. Between that, and knowing that what I've witnessed is a once-in-a-generation thing, I can accept the 'new normal', and just sit back, relax, and enjoy the drama born of The Aftermath as if it were some crazy English-language telenovela

Wax Frog · Mar 24, 2020

farn said:
BB wins and doesn’t let emotions rule his decisions. Glad he’s the coach and decision maker.

For good or ill, he literally takes one for the team with every decision. I'm also glad he's still the coach.

RobertWeathers · Mar 24, 2020

Wax Frog said:
Yep. All the gratitude in the world for TB, and best wishes for his future endeavors, but I was thoroughly seduced back in '85, so I'm all about the laundry til my dying day.

For reasons that I won't bother to elaborate (personal ones that belong in TL : DR hell), for far too long I felt pressure for my team of choice to succeed. Now, thanks to the TB era, they've far exceeded that need, so I have closure. Between that, and knowing that what I've witnessed is a once-in-a-generation thing, I can accept the 'new normal', and just sit back, relax, and enjoy the drama born of The Aftermath as if it were some crazy English-language telenovela

I'm kind of in the same mindset.

Last thing I want to endure is a 2-14, 5-11, multi-year period of suck-a-tude but there is a part of me that is kinda excited about this rebuild and the fun of the unknown. Maybe because like you I've been though it and know its awful but when the team turns around and has that unexpected playoff run...man its so much fun.

Steve102 · Mar 24, 2020

Coolade said:
When will be the first game that gets lost because of coaching mistakes and game management..? I wanna see that press conference post game. .. we shall see..

"Gotta play better, gotta coach better, that all starts with me."

We've seen that movie already.

Steve102 · Mar 24, 2020

robertweathers said:
I'm kind of in the same mindset.

Last thing I want to endure is a 2-14, 5-11, multi-year period of suck-a-tude but there is a part of me that is kinda excited about this rebuild and the fun of the unknown. Maybe because like you I've been though it and know its awful but when the team turns around and has that unexpected playoff run...man its so much fun.

Can you imagine if they go 12-4 or something?? Stid throws for 3500 yards and 30 Tds with maybe 10 picks? The haters will be jumping off... wait for it... cliffs. It would be rich.

Nehalem · Mar 24, 2020

Shouldn't this be labeled OT now?

amfootball · Mar 24, 2020

Steve:Section 102 said:
Can you imagine if they go 12-4 or something?? Stid throws for 3500 yards and 30 Tds with maybe 10 picks? The haters will be jumping off... wait for it... cliffs. It would be rich.

I think if we just win the division it will blow people's minds. I mean the Bills basically threw a virtual parade when Brady announced he was leaving.

Wax Frog · Mar 24, 2020

robertweathers said:
I'm kind of in the same mindset.

Last thing I want to endure is a 2-14, 5-11, multi-year period of suck-a-tude but there is a part of me that is kinda excited about this rebuild and the fun of the unknown. Maybe because like you I've been though it and know its awful but when the team turns around and has that unexpected playoff run...man its so much fun.

It's kind of a zen-mood thing isn't it? You know that even though a return to the bad old days would have a sour taste, it would be a taste and nothing more. There's a core deep within that will be forever radiant. My favorite way of saying it is "6 titles with ONE coach and ONE QB! Damn!"

Hammer of Thor · Mar 24, 2020

robertweathers said:
I'm kind of in the same mindset.

Last thing I want to endure is a 2-14, 5-11, multi-year period of suck-a-tude but there is a part of me that is kinda excited about this rebuild and the fun of the unknown. Maybe because like you I've been though it and know its awful but when the team turns around and has that unexpected playoff run...man its so much fun.

With Brady and Belichick, we had a team that was expected to win the Super Bowl every year, and actually accomplished it about 1 out of every 3 years. That’s ridiculously amazing.

That said, Belichick is still a good coach who surrounds himself with quality assistants and there is a solid ownership structure in place. We’re not going to see what we’ve seen anymore. Without a quality QB, I still have faith that the Pats could be like the Ravens so far this century - a Super Bowl win once a decade, a bad team once a decade, and a competitive team all the other years. With a decent QB (who isn’t and can never be Brady of course)? They could look like the Steelers - in it every year, win Super Bowls at a slightly better pace than the Ravens.

It’s not what we’re accustomed to, but I’d be thrilled if that’s what the post-Brady era looks like.

Wax Frog · Mar 24, 2020

Nehalem said:
Shouldn't this be labeled OT now?

I'm one to give slack during what is, for some, a grieving period.

RobertWeathers · Mar 24, 2020

Steve:Section 102 said:
Can you imagine if they go 12-4 or something?? Stid throws for 3500 yards and 30 Tds with maybe 10 picks? The haters will be jumping off... wait for it... cliffs. It would be rich.

I was thinking the same thing...What if?

What if they start off crappy but a nice end-of-the season run gets them to 10-6 and are able to squeak into the playoffs. They win the WC round. Then the divisional like TN and back in the AFCCG.

Along the way Stidham shows hes not going to ever be Brady but a good playoff QB. BB takes that $100m in cap space and reloads for 2021.

I'm not expecting any of that next year but to sit here and be gloom and doom doesn't make sense to me.

Wax Frog · Mar 24, 2020

amfootball said:
I think if we just win the division it will blow people's minds. I mean the Bills basically threw a virtual parade when Brady announced he was leaving.

My gut says it'll be a 7-9 to 9-7 season, so that would be the sweetest of salty-tear makers.

Bonzo · Mar 24, 2020

robertweathers said:
I think Ariens is a fairly competent coach but I lost all respect for him with his comments after we beat them in the 2016 opener. He blamed everyone for the loss except himself. The GM and the owner did the same thing. They all bashed the players.

Thats just crap leadership.

I am deeply suspicious of Arians' coaching "talent." (I can't find the direct quote, but I remember Arians one time calling himself a great coach -- which, as a Patriots fan, seems really weird.)

Obviously I have on clue what really goes on behind the scenes, but whenever I see Arians getting buried with praise for coaching Peyton, Big Ben, Luck and Palmer, I can't help but wonder: maybe it's the other way around, and lucking into so many quality QBs has inflated his reputation. (And maybe it's about to happen again.)

RobertWeathers · Mar 24, 2020

Hammer of Thor said:
With Brady and Belichick, we had a team that was expected to win the Super Bowl every year, and actually accomplished it about 1 out of every 3 years. That’s ridiculously amazing.

That said, Belichick is still a good coach who surrounds himself with quality assistants and there is a solid ownership structure in place. We’re not going to see what we’ve seen anymore. Without a quality QB, I still have faith that the Pats could be like the Ravens so far this century - a Super Bowl win once a decade, a bad team once a decade, and a competitive team all the other years. With a decent QB (who isn’t and can never be Brady of course)? They could look like the Steelers - in it every year, win Super Bowls at a slightly better pace than the Ravens.

It’s not what we’re accustomed to, but I’d be thrilled if that’s what the post-Brady era looks like.

It really comes down to what kind of person you are. Negative or positive. Optimistic or pessimistic. There is plenty of room to be a realist.

I guess my point is I'm not dreading 2020 (if we have it). It could suck but there is $100m in cap space for 2021. This is a rebuild year and if they make the playoffs I will be beyond giddy.

PP2 · Mar 24, 2020

robertweathers said:
I think Ariens is a fairly competent coach but I lost all respect for him with his comments after we beat them in the 2016 opener. He blamed everyone for the loss except himself. The GM and the owner did the same thing. They all bashed the players.

Thats just crap leadership.

Sayyyyy.... that reminds me of someone doing the exact same thing, right now.

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