Jules wants out?

RobertWeathers · Mar 22, 2020

PatsFan2 said:
Only a blind Homer would think that this Offense will be any good. rob the Talent blows period no decent vet in their right minds on O would want to come here. A lot of growing pains coming in 2020. 6-10 Team minus Brady and that might even be a stretch.

Its March but go ahead and panic if it makes you feel better.

Steve102 · Mar 23, 2020

He's got a 9m cap number. I guess it comes down to what kind of locker room presesnce is he without Tom. If he is vocal in dissention against the Patriot Way, he'll be on the Shawn Springs, Adailius Thomas train out of town. If he's a good soldier, team leader, captain material, then he'll be here.

Ross12 · Mar 23, 2020

Steve:Section 102 said:
He's got a 9m cap number. I guess it comes down to what kind of locker room presesnce is he without Tom. If he is vocal in dissention against the Patriot Way, he'll be on the Shawn Springs, Adailius Thomas train out of town. If he's a good soldier, team leader, captain material, then he'll be here.

It’s tough to say. He should be one of the biggest proponents of the Patriot culture. “Doing his job” plus a little bit more allowed him to not only stay on a roster but eventually blossom into a stellar receiver and ultimately a Super Bowl MVP. No other team would’ve likely drafted him. How many teams would have kept him around on their 53 when he was a scrappy ST/PR just trying to find his role and learn a new position? He’s a poster boy for “The Patriot Way” almost as much as Brady was.

At the same time he’s Brady’s best friend pretty much and it’s hard to imagine it’ll be easy to adjust. Will things wear thin on him without his role model there?

cupofjoe1962 · Mar 23, 2020

TBR said:
A 3rd is reasonable. A 2nd rounder is highly unlikely.

There are a lot of maneuvers that Belichick could work out to get into the 2nd round.

Example...

We give Edelman & a 3rd & 6th comp pick for TB’s 2nd & 5th round picks.

There seems to be a lot of swapping of picks in recent years.

bresna · Mar 23, 2020

Patsgofor4 said:
In today’s Globe, Trollin’ Volin wrote:

“A trade before June 1 would save the Patriots $4.33 million in cap space this year. A trade after June 1 would save $7 million on the cap this year.”

This conflicts with what others have written in this thread. I thought that because of a $6 million dead cap hit that trading or releasing Edelman would only give them $1 million in cap relief this year. Can Miguel or any of our posters who is familiar with the salary cap comment on this? Thanks.

I think the confusion is that most of the conversations talk abut trading Edelman for draft picks and the draft is prior to June 1. If people change the conversation to post June 1st, the conversation changes.

TBR · Mar 23, 2020

cupofjoe1962 said:
There are a lot of maneuvers that Belichick could work out to get into the 2nd round.

Example...

We give Edelman & a 3rd & 6th comp pick for TB’s 2nd & 5th round picks.

There seems to be a lot of swapping of picks in recent years.

Yea but that's a messy way of attributing a straight forward value on a player.

ctpatsfan77 · Mar 23, 2020

Ross12 said:
How many teams would have kept him around on their 53 when he was a scrappy ST/PR just trying to find his role and learn a new position? He’s a poster boy for “The Patriot Way” almost as much as Brady was.

Lots.

Back in 2009 if they had considered trying to slide him onto the PS, that "hope" evaporated in the first preseason game. It was obvious he would have been claimed off waivers.

Another example: SB53. The Rams had nearly one-third of their players playing primarily or exclusively on STs.

PP2 · Mar 24, 2020

The big question for me is: Did Brady tell Edelman that he was leaving the team, or was he blindsided, like everyone else?

Kontradiction · Mar 24, 2020

PP2 said:
The big question for me is: Did Brady tell Edelman that he was leaving the team, or was he blindsided, like everyone else?

I’m sure Brady told him. I’m even more sure of that than I am about Brady and BB having a very frank conversation with the direction of the football team in the next two years when they spoke.

RobertWeathers · Mar 24, 2020

PP2 said:
The big question for me is: Did Brady tell Edelman that he was leaving the team, or was he blindsided, like everyone else?

I bet he dropped little hints to JE but told him flat out around the time he told Early Bird.

WinstonSmith · Mar 24, 2020

PP2 said:
The big question for me is: Did Brady tell Edelman that he was leaving the team, or was he blindsided, like everyone else?

Didn't you watch the clip from the Syracuse game? Brady clearly told Edelman that he was leaving and that he should join him.

Steve102 · Mar 24, 2020

WinstonSmith said:
Didn't you watch the clip from the Syracuse game? Brady clearly told Edelman that he was leaving and that he should join him.

Where do you see this?

luuked · Mar 24, 2020

PP2 said:
The big question for me is: Did Brady tell Edelman that he was leaving the team, or was he blindsided, like everyone else?

I doubt Edelman knew before Kraft who said on record that Brady informed him the evening before.

WinstonSmith · Mar 24, 2020

Steve:Section 102 said:
Where do you see this?

Sorry, was making light of all of the fuss made (lip reading attempts and body language analysis) of the Brady/Edelman interaction caught on camera at the Syracuse game. Just a swing and a miss at humor...will try to hold onto my day job.

Uptown · Mar 24, 2020

Ross12 said:
It’s tough to say. He should be one of the biggest proponents of the Patriot culture. “Doing his job” plus a little bit more allowed him to not only stay on a roster but eventually blossom into a stellar receiver and ultimately a Super Bowl MVP. No other team would’ve likely drafted him. How many teams would have kept him around on their 53 when he was a scrappy ST/PR just trying to find his role and learn a new position? He’s a poster boy for “The Patriot Way” almost as much as Brady was.

At the same time he’s Brady’s best friend pretty much and it’s hard to imagine it’ll be easy to adjust. Will things wear thin on him without his role model there?

Only team I can think of is maybe BAL.

Steve102 · Mar 24, 2020

WinstonSmith said:
Sorry, was making light of all of the fuss made (lip reading attempts and body language analysis) of the Brady/Edelman interaction caught on camera at the Syracuse game. Just a swing and a miss at humor...will try to hold onto my day job.

Well, that's fine. I am 100% on board that Jules knew what was going on.

borg · Mar 24, 2020

PP2 said:
The big question for me is: Did Brady tell Edelman that he was leaving the team, or was he blindsided, like everyone else?

The “BIG QUESTION FOR ME”
.....lmfao

oh the drama

On a scale of 1-100 measuring seismic intensity of critical-mass gossiping, my Big Question meter measured a “3”

Triumph · Mar 24, 2020

His love for Tom will never wane. Im holding back the tears.

Kontradiction · Mar 24, 2020

borg said:
The “BIG QUESTION FOR ME”
.....lmfao

oh the drama

On a scale of 1-100 measuring seismic intensity of critical-mass gossiping, my Big Question meter measured a “3”

XLIX · Mar 24, 2020

PP2 said:
The big question for me is: Did Brady tell Edelman that he was leaving the team, or was he blindsided, like everyone else?

Anyone who was blindsided by this announcement must have been living in a cave the past year.

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