Pats sign QB Brian Hoyer, LB Brandon Copeland

Todd Bradley said:

“Paying peanuts” should be the official title of this offseason.


I’ll take my chances with Winston on a one year prove it deal than 34-year-old journeyman Brain Hoyer.

If Stidham isn’t the second coming of Mahomes, this is going to be a long season and one excruciatingly long rebuild.

To not bring in a guy with talent to at least compete for the starting job is just nauseating.

Hoyer isn’t competition in the slightest, and if he is, we’re in big, big trouble...

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If we signed Winston I’d immediately start an over/under pool on which would total more, TDS or TOs. And I’d take TOs on the over. Given his fumbles plus his INTs that seems a no-brainer.

In other words, a really really bad choice.

Deus Irae said:

That's less than a buck apiece!!!!*







*Yes, I get it being $200 each

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He’s teaching them to work together.

PatsfanTN said:

That’s a good point, Brady could take a beating and get back up.

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Belichick taught him that.

NormZauchin said:

Interesting because Stidham beat out Hoyer for the backup slot last year as a rookie. One year later, after often leading the first team in practice, Stidham will not be easier to dethrone as the starting QB.

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no, Stidham beat out Hoyer for the developmental long term QB of the future. Not for the backup slot.

Coolade said:

Hire another QB coach. Have one work on the throwing and movement.. the physical stuff..

the other the reading of defenses, the scheme , the brains. The mental stuff..

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They just hired this guy. Name’s Brian...

IllegalContact said:

with Brady in the team, there was more value in having stidham .... hoyers value was less. Now with Brady gone, the situation has changed and there is more value in having his experience here

going into the season with only stidham and some 2020 draft pick at qb is flat out stupid

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Really??? What happened to our win total odds when Hoyer was signed? Do you honestly believe there is a win total difference between a rookie/Hoyer/Stidham combo and a rookie/rookie/Stidham combo. So many teams take your approach and live in qb purgatory forever. Get young QB...Find untalented journeyman to "mentor"...Young QB flames out and isn't the answer...You spent that entire time wasting 2 spots on your roster...Start from square one again.

3 (or 4) spots on every roster for qbs. Every additional unknown increases your chances of finding one. Going with players like Hoyer decreases your chances of finding one.

n6249c said:

They just hired this guy. Name’s Brian...

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Fine...give him a coaching title and free up a spot for another potential candidate.

IllegalContact said:

you have your qb = the qb that you have

still have to prepare to win the games

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The Patriots aren't winning a single additional game because Brian freaking Hoyer is on the roster.

iapatsfan said:

Fine...give him a coaching title and free up a spot for another potential candidate.

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Belichick likes versatility...

n6249c said:

If we signed Winston I’d immediately start an over/under pool on which would total more, TDS or TOs. And I’d take TOs on the over. Given his fumbles plus his INTs that seems a no-brainer.

In other words, a really really bad choice.

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I'll never understand how betting works. You can have an over/under pool for 2 stats at the same time compared to each other?

TomPatriot said:

I don't agree. You are right in that it is more important than any single position. But you can win an SB with a young game manager or lesser QB who doesn't turn the ball over. Denver did it with Peyton, the Pats did it with 2001 Brady, the Ravens did it with Flacco, Giants did it with Eli.

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OK, we have pats fans examples of a lesser NFL quarterbacks: Peyton Manning, 2001 Brady, Flacco, Eli Manning. We are truly spoiled.

iapatsfan said:

The Patriots aren't winning a single additional game because Brian freaking Hoyer is on the roster.

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you're letting your personal feelings interfere with common sense

mgteich said:

OK, we have pats fans examples of a lesser quarterbacks: Peyton Manning, 2001 Brady, Flacco, Eli Manning. We are truly spoiled.

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2002-2006 Brady was very similar to 2001 Brady

IllegalContact said:

you're letting your personal feelings interfere with common sense

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Common sense would tell you the Patriots do not win a single additional game because Brian Hoyer is on the team. Common sense would also tell you that when you go with 2 potential options at QB you have a lesser chance of finding one than if you go with 3.

iapatsfan said:

Common sense would tell you the Patriots do not win a single additional game because Brian Hoyer is on the team. Common sense would also tell you that when you go with 2 potential options at QB you have a lesser chance of finding one than if you go with 3.

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you obviously don't know what common sense means

n6249c said:

no, Stidham beat out Hoyer for the developmental long term QB of the future. Not for the backup slot.

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Huh?
Curious who you believe was the Pats backup last year.
I guess being the only other QB on the 46 man game day roster does not qualify as “back up”

IllegalContact said:

2002-2006 Brady was very similar to 2001 Brady

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We are now comparing Brian Hoyer to Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Joe Flacco and Eli Manning? You know you're reaching because there is no case for Hoyer being on this roster.

IllegalContact said:

you obviously don't know what common sense means

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I ask you the following question, Will the New England Patriots win a single additional game because Brian Hoyer is on the roster?

Obviously you can't give a definitive answer because it hasn't happened yet. However, one could use "common sense" to determine it's probably not going to happen.

You are losing this because there is no case for Brian Hoyer occupying a spot. You're fighting a losing battle.

n6249c said:

no, Stidham beat out Hoyer for the developmental long term QB of the future. Not for the backup slot.

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So you are stating that Hoyer, at age 33 in 2019, was a candidate to be "the developmental long term QB of the future."

Nunchucks said:

I was hoping this would not happen.

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And I won a bet when it did