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It’s a fact, that money was going to other countries. Do you really want to give money to other countries, when people in our own country need it? Thats pretty much the craziest possible plan.

That money was supporting US teams IN other countries to help contain outbreaks quickly AT THE SOURCE. A US team in China might have been nice, ya know?

I don't expect people to understand rocket science, but this isn't rocket science.
 
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You say that with too much confidence. This could conceivably dwarf any other crisis by the time it's over. 12,000 new cases in NY today, now 22k total in NY.
It’s still not a virus that kills young or healthy people like the Spanish flu did. Even if 25% of the population caught it like the Spanish flu it’s not as bad as the Spanish flu.
 
It’s still not a virus that kills young or healthy people like the Spanish flu did. Even if 25% of the population caught it like the Spanish flu it’s not as bad as the Spanish flu.

isn’t the comparison pretty useless? The Spanish flu was 100 years ago
 
China is no where close to being "back to work".

Yes I know, that's what I said. China is telling the world that they are, and they are lying.
 
It’s still not a virus that kills young or healthy people like the Spanish flu did. Even if 25% of the population caught it like the Spanish flu it’s not as bad as the Spanish flu.

Here comes the goalpost moving.

It’s nothing.

It’s minor.

These numbers don’t justify the panicking.

Even still, it isn’t the Spanish Flu.

A pandemic isn’t like a genocide though.

This still isn’t as bad as being in Hiroshima.
 
I think everyone needs to watch this.

 
That money was supporting US teams IN other countries to help contain outbreaks quickly AT THE SOURCE. A US team in China might have been nice, ya know?

I don't expect people to understand rocket science, but this isn't rocket science.
They were already partnered with China and funded 60 million dollars. It didn’t prevent anything because we still allowed people to come into the country from China. You think sending money to China would prevent this when the entire Chinese government couldn’t? You know what, that’s a great plan. I think the presidential candidates should run on exporting money to foreign countries while people here need it. It’s a sure fire winning platform.
 
How? Destiny is the lowest of the low? How about the amazing atheist
All these youtube pu dots and conspiracy theorists riff off each other and drive clicks, which makes them all money
 
All these youtube pu dots and conspiracy theorists riff off each other and drive clicks, which makes them all money

All these? It’s just hard to take you seriously at this point with claims like this. Your just generalizing now. Neither of the names I mentioned are any of those things. And neither is Tim Pool, who I could really care less about.
 
Here comes the goalpost moving.

It’s nothing.

It’s minor.

These numbers don’t justify the panicking.

Even still, it isn’t the Spanish Flu.

A pandemic isn’t like a genocide though.

This still isn’t as bad as being in Hiroshima.
Hi, can you show where I moved the goalposts with my quotes instead of ones you made up? The person I was responding to said it was the wort crisis in American history. I said it was not. That’s not moving the goal posts (assuming you know what that means.)
 
I don't have that data. What I will observe the more infectious it is with the number of fatalities we observe, the lower the fatality rate. So as we test and see a higher number of infections that will indicate a lower fatality rate.

Wait, I was about to agree with you, but let me clarify: You understand that there is an apparent higher mortality rate when, for example, you only test those with severe systems? And that you have an apparently lower mortality rate, when you begin to test a greater portion of the population?

In other words, the phenomenon is not based on the virus mutating to become milder, at least not so far as we know. We are simply capturing more cases as we test somewhat more broadly.

Or are you saying that the virus literally becomes more mild "the more infectious it is"? (It is just as infectious, by my reckoning, and just as deadly; we're just observing apparent changes because the tested population has increased.)
 
I'm re-watching past Pats wins. They'll keep me going for a long while. Too bad you don't have that option ... :D
He had a chance to watch his team's highlights. He had to take a leak when it started but it was all over when he got back....should have dvr'd it.
 
isn’t the comparison pretty useless? The Spanish flu was 100 years ago
The person I responded to said it was the worst crisis in American history, so American history would be relevant. So no, it’s not useless. The Spanish flue was unique in that it was more severe among healthy people with a mortality rate that spiked among people in their 20’s and 30’s. It wasn’t just a case of primitive medicine, it targeted healthy people. A virus killing people with an average age of 81 will not be near as big of a crisis as that.

92% of Spanish flu deaths were to people under 62. 99% of Coronavirus deaths in Italy’s are to people over 60. I would say there’s no comparison to how bad the Spanish flu was.
 
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