Brady’s contract with Tampa Bay - $25m/yr for 2 years?!

festy1986 said:

I was unaware there was this many brady haters. That it was all bill and brady was just here for the ride.

No wonder he left.

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primetime said:

You keep saying $25m but it's $29.5m when incentives are taken into account. Plus the dead cap hit from the previous contract if the Patriots signed him. For an aging quarterback whose best days are behind him and who looked, at times, like he was falling off last season.

You can only use void years to shift bonuses, so it's hard to see how they could have pushed $18m to 2022, as you claim. Note that the Bucs structured the contract such that there's no signing bonus, so it's all (guaranteed) salary and roster bonuses. The $59m they're giving him is real money, none of it is salary in fake years at the end of the contract to inflate the paper value.

To equal what he's getting from the Bucs, the Patriots would have had to essentially pay Brady $30m guaranteed in 2020 and 2021. If half of what they gave him ($30m) was a signing bonus, we could have decreased the cap hit in 2020 by $5m if they used one void year (since the $30m bonus would be spread across 3 years rather than 2). So it would have been... $25m, plus his dad cap hit. Which is more than they could afford if they wanted to have any semblance of a football team.

The problem is you have zero idea how the salary cap charge is calculated under the CBA and you think void years are some magical cheat code.

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sb1 said:

Nobody here hates Brady

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Biffins said:

Wow. You’re right. We’d have won 9 SBs if we had a better QB than Brady. Because of his weak ass play we only won 6 and some of those were close calls, like that Atlanta game. You’re absolutely right.


You’re about to get a wake-up call as you’re so spoilt watching Brady that you are implying QB could have been improved all these years. Time to face reality.

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Biffins said:

At this point I wish Brady all the luck in the world and hope he has an MVP year. He deserved better than what our FO has given him. And I hope Bb’s every move backfires and he gets egg on his face and I hope Kraft is forced to fire him. I am fuming.

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Biffins said:

Or many of those fans will hiss and cheer every pie on his face decision BB makes. I frankly look forward to BB’s comeuppance with relish.

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Biffins said:

We’re all rooting for the Pats to win. But we xan still be critical of FO mistakes.

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skinnydog said:

His current dead cap could have been spread over at least 2 years. So cap wise it would have had to be more like 24 million guaranteed with no incentives to be equivalent from a cap perspective(I think).

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Elijah said:

He's been called a diva in this very thread.

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skinnydog said:

His current dead cap could have been spread over at least 2 years. So cap wise it would have had to be more like 24 million guaranteed with no incentives to be equivalent from a cap perspective(I think).

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sb1 said:

Wins are a team stat not a QB stat. Always were and always will be.

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Angelpats said:

The guy is playing where he is wanted and at an affordable contract when you consider some qbs will start getting paid close to 40 a year. You know the patriots low balled him. You try selling something for $100 and someone comes back at you with a $20 offer, and this someone is a person you have continually gave discounts throughout the years and both of you were successful in the process.

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holyredeemer said:

Damn, man. Your act is gettin’ old real quick. You’re like that crazy ass homeless dude standing on a box, holding up a sign screaming about the end of the world to anyone that will listen. I’ve been watching this team since the back half of the 80’s. I ain’t spoiled. I truly understand how good we had it and am incredibly grateful. Thing is, unlike you and a lot of these other tail tuckers, I can see that there are other ways to win a super bowl, and that this is a team game. We aren’t even one week into FA man.

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Biffins said:

And yet when the game is on the line it’s usually that one QB, not the whole team, who is holding the ball and making the decisions and either he steps up and delivers laser throws under pressure to small windows or he misses “by inches”. The margins of error and law of averages disappear when you only have a few throws left. And some QBs can take the pressure and deliver and some (even the greats) melt away.

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Angelpats said:

The guy is playing where he is wanted and at an affordable contract when you consider some qbs will start getting paid close to 40 a year. You know the patriots low balled him. You try selling something for $100 and someone comes back at you with a $20 offer, and this someone is a person you have continually gave discounts throughout the years and both of you were successful in the process.

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Elijah said:

...We could have made room for Brady, but then what? He would still be in a worse situation than he is now.

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varjao said:

man Tampa Bay, with all due respect, is a ****ty market, Brady had no other options left. There wasn't a big market for him because many teams already have a franchise QB or are in the process and don't want to disrupt whatever they have in there.

Tampa Bay had a good roster , specially on the offensive front, and a need for a QB. Ok it was a fit. But do you think Brady wanted to go there???

Answer: NO, NO ****ING WAY. No way he wanted to end his marvelous career like this. And I don't think the question was money either.

He left because he still wants to play football and there was no other option because NE can't field a decent roster because they can't draft and he's saving that franchise for years but it comes to a point he needs some help and the GM doesn't give a ****.

It's a shame this happened. I think Brady struggled a lot because he is a good soldier but man he had to desert.

So Brady is old and the team treated him like ****. So take that, the GM is old as well almost 70 and can't draft to save his life. What about that ******** he's only going to draft the players he wants to coach?? What the **** that means, draft those so called coaches on the field? Like Jordan Richards, how's that working out lately? So he is going to pass on a better talent because guys have a bit too much confidence on themselves or guys that in the 4th year are going to say out loud that they wanna GET PAID? Are those unwanted players?

The coach is old as well and is seems to be reflecting of the field making stupid challenges and losing those smarts he had over any other coach in the league.

If its an age problem and lack of trust, I'd rather keep the old QB for another 3 years, he seems healthier than the average 35ish years old QB out there.

IT'S A SHAME, A COMPLETE EMBARRASSMENT THAT HAD TO END LIKE THIS.

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captain stone said:

But we wouldn't be...

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Elijah said:

How does that change his unwillingness to accept the same offer here? Our bid had to be higher than Tampa.

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captain stone said:

I don't believe he was ever given the same offer here...?

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