I'm on Team Stidham

Re-posting from August...

Preseason...

2019 (3 games)


2018 (4 games)


2017 (nfl.com only has Tom here....think they fooked up)


2016 (4 games)


2015 (4 games)

Money and cap considerations: another year of Brady or ... ?

patsinthesnow said:

Jimmy Garoppolo:

• 2nd-3rd round prospect
• great release & NFL accuracy
• prolific FCS passer
• undersized
• played in a simplistic offense
• pocket awareness needed work

Jarrett Stidham:

• 3rd-4th round prospect
• great arm & NFL accuracy
• protects the ball (48 TD 13 INT ratio)
• mobile
• undersized
• pocket presence a mess junior year

Posting since there is some hindsight analysis that Garoppolo was a great prospect & Stidham some late round flier. There difference isn’t that notable as the pats slightly reached on Garoppolo & Stidham fell to them.

Stidham was my 3rd QB in the draft. If he came out in 2017 he was projected a late 1st-2nd round pick ( Auburn's Jarrett Stidham Is NFL Draft's Early Favorite for QB1). He returned to school & Auburn’s OL was horrible. He developed bad habits that would need awhile in the NFL to correct.

Who knows if he will be able to play. However, he was a legit NFL prospect who had a great camp & preseason. He threw an INT after picking his nose on the bench. That should override his progress this offseason?

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He's a real QB prospect. It's a matter of getting the ball out quicker.

Good.

Stidham, Hoyer, draft pick would work for me.

Tampa, however, may look at Hoyer (if he becomes available) as a good backup option as well. He could fill in for a game or two in case of Brady injury, help with the installation of the Pats plays that Brady wants to add to the playbook and run the scout team offense.

Gator Mike said:

And once upon a time, Bill Belichick was ready to turn the keys to the kingdom over to Jimmy G.

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When was this?

Deus Irae said:

When was this?

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Well, I guess it depends on how much you trust the reporting.

For Kraft, Brady, and Belichick, is this the beginning of the end?




“A Bit of Brady”: How Jimmy Garoppolo Copied the G.O.A.T.—Then Escaped His Shadow

I just want all the cap hits to clear and see where we are at. In the meantime, Stidham has my support. Don’t know how it is going to work out but he’s the guy right now. I’m assuming it might be a tad rocky but so what? Every other team has taken their lumps to rebuild and it’s finally our turn to watch a true rebuild without having a franchise/elite QB to pick up the slack. The last 20 years were in incredible but it’s finally time and I’m on board.

I'm big on team Stidham. I know for certain that Dalton, Newton, or whatever other veteran you throw out isn't leading this Pats team anywhere. May as well give Stidham a shot and see what he has. Plus, Stidham has a year in the system, is cheap, and a shortened offseason will limit what an outsider can do.

Is Stidham ahead of brady year2?

You could make a case that belichick system in place now is better, brady is better then Bledsoe as mentor...

Only problem is mcd blows compared to weis... haha

I’m a skeptic but I’d way rather give him a shot next season instead of picking up some vet QB.

Kdo5 said:

I’m a skeptic but I’d way rather give him a shot next season instead of picking up some vet QB.

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Especially with the one’s that are available.

I'm on team Trevor Lawrence

I don't believe Trevor Lawrence is currently available to play for the Patriots at this point, either.

Gator Mike said:

Well, I guess it depends on how much you trust the reporting.

For Kraft, Brady, and Belichick, is this the beginning of the end?

Two weeks before the Nov. 1 trading deadline, Belichick met with Kraft to discuss the quarterback situation. According to staffers, the meeting ran long, lasting half the day and pushing back Belichick's other meetings. The office was buzzing. The meeting ended with a clear mandate to Belichick: trade Garoppolo because he would not be in the team's long-term plans, and then, once again, find the best quarterback in the draft and develop him. Belichick was furious and demoralized, according to friends. But in the end, he did what he asks of his players and coaches: He did his job.​

The Patriots repeatedly offered Garoppolo four-year contract extensions, in the $17 million to $18 million range annually that would go higher if and when he succeeded Brady. Garoppolo and Yee rejected the offers out of hand, for reasons that remain unclear, and the Patriots knew they couldn't make any promises to Garoppolo about the timing of a transition at quarterback without it getting back to Brady.​

“A Bit of Brady”: How Jimmy Garoppolo Copied the G.O.A.T.—Then Escaped His Shadow

“Bill really, really liked Jimmy,” says Denise (Garoppolo). “Not like they were warm and fuzzy—but they both knew it was there.”

Last December, following the trade, a sort of weekly ritual began: After each of Garoppolo’s starts for the 49ers, he received a text from the coach who had traded him, congratulating him on another win.​

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That doesn't say that BB was ready to turn the team over to JAG.

Deus Irae said:

That doesn't say that BB was ready to turn the team over to JAG.

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Not explicitly, but what other conclusion would you draw?

robertweathers said:

I love this post. Nice job.

If Stidham kicks ass this year the rest of the league will tremble.

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This. It'll be great to see blowhards like Rex Ryan and Cliff Kellerman have to legitimately genuflect and ... kiss the rings.

Gator Mike said:

Not explicitly, but what other conclusion would you draw?

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You seem to be confusing "wanted JAG as the successor when Brady was done" with "wanted JAG to be the starter over Brady". If the issue is language confusion, and you're really saying the first rather than the latter, then we're probably on pretty much the same page.

zimmy said:

I'm big on team Stidham. I know for certain that Dalton, Newton, or whatever other veteran you throw out isn't leading this Pats team anywhere. May as well give Stidham a shot and see what he has. Plus, Stidham has a year in the system, is cheap, and a shortened offseason will limit what an outsider can do.

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I’d draft Hurts if available and use him creatively like Saints have been using Hill whilst he learns the playbook and see how Stidham handles a year as a starter. Then we can let them battle it out for 2021 or if Stidham lights it up trade Hurts if he shows glimpses during his plays.

I'm a huge Georgia fan and live 45 min from Sanford Stadium...saw Stidham play many times being an SEC guy.

Positive:

Elite arm talent...in person you see the ball shoot out of his hand effortlessly.

Smart kid...can read a defense

Good leader with solid intangibles


Negative:

Senior year tape was what it was BUT Malzahn nearly lost his job that year because of how terribly he coached. Receivers were trash, line stunk etc

Played in a VERY basic offense at Auburn so could struggle a while to learn what mat be the most complex system in the NFL.


All in all, I thought when they drafted him that they got 1st round physical tools at a deep discount because of circumstances. Time will tell if coaching and a better system will make or break him.

ToonPatriot said:

I’d draft Hurts if available and use him creatively like Saints have been using Hill whilst he learns the playbook and see how Stidham handles a year as a starter. Then we can let them battle it out for 2021 or if Stidham lights it up trade Hurts if he shows glimpses during his plays.

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SEC guy here...Hurts IS NOT an NFL QB

At this point...yes...let's go with Stidham...and see if he can be the men...
I hope he will not feel the expected pressure and i hope the fans will do their best to support him...