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I'm ready to roll with Stidham, just like I was ready to roll with Brady when he looked good in the preseason as a rookie.

That being said, I'd be cool with drafting Jalen Hurts and using him as a change of pace QB and letting him compete with Stidham.
 
Are there any Pats fans who aren't on team Stidham? I'd rather see him here than Winston or Newton, as has been suggested.

You people really are getting loopy in your isolation. I doubt Stidham can even be an effective back up. Outside of the puff pieces from the people schilling for Kraft and BB, where is this coming from? He played on an exceptionally talented team in Auburn, with a tremendous defense and ran a quasi spread option. His play and stats are unimpressive at best. He had outstanding RBs and a great defense.

The biggest game he ever played in was the 2017 SEC Championship game against a Georgia team that they had crushed a few weeks earlier. In that game he was a pedestrian 16-32 for 145 yards in a game that they scored 7 points!

Sure he lit up Mercer, against LSU 9-26 165 yards! 9-26 against a great defense!

Lets move to 2018.
vs LSU 16-28 128 yards (Loss 22-21)
vs Georgia 25-37 172 yards (Loss 27-10)
vs Alabama 15-32 153 yards (Loss 52-21)

He had maybe the best college RB in 2017 in Kerryon Johnson, he got hurt before the second Georgia game and without him, they got crushed.

If the Pats were playing Liberty University, then yeah, Stidham would be OK. Against an NFL team, PLEASE.....
 
You people really are getting loopy in your isolation. I doubt Stidham can even be an effective back up. Outside of the puff pieces from the people schilling for Kraft and BB, where is this coming from? He played on an exceptionally talented team in Auburn, with a tremendous defense and ran a quasi spread option. His play and stats are unimpressive at best. He had outstanding RBs and a great defense.

The biggest game he ever played in was the 2017 SEC Championship game against a Georgia team that they had crushed a few weeks earlier. In that game he was a pedestrian 16-32 for 145 yards in a game that they scored 7 points!

Sure he lit up Mercer, against LSU 9-26 165 yards! 9-26 against a great defense!

Lets move to 2018.
vs LSU 16-28 128 yards (Loss 22-21)
vs Georgia 25-37 172 yards (Loss 27-10)
vs Alabama 15-32 153 yards (Loss 52-21)

He had maybe the best college RB in 2017 in Kerryon Johnson, he got hurt before the second Georgia game and without him, they got crushed.

If the Pats were playing Liberty University, then yeah, Stidham would be OK. Against an NFL team, PLEASE.....

I'm on team Stidham because that's all we have right now. I have no idea what he was in college since I don't follow the NCAA game.

If Stidham's a bad as you think he is then the Pats are even bigger idiots than I thought for letting Brady go.
 
I’m cheering for him too. But we don’t know what we’ve got in him yet. As for the pick 6 so what. Brady himself had some real stinkers in his first year as a starter. It’s all about learning from it.

Looking forward to finding out what we have here.
 
Apologies in advance for the long post. I've had some time on my hands the past few days.

After the shock of Brady leaving wore off, I started looking more closely at Jarrett Stidham to try and form an opinion about what the Patriots have at Quarterback moving forward. After a few days of reading stories and watching videos, I have to say... I'm on Team Stidham at the moment.

Why? Let's start with what the coaches say about him:

Bill Belichick: "Jarrett is a smart kid. He picks things up very quickly. He has a good grasp of the offense given where he is in his career. He’s handled everything we’ve thrown at him. In practice, he does a good job. He gets a lot of passes on our defense and when he has the opportunity to get the offensive snaps, he’s prepared and does a good job of those."

Josh McDaniels: "I really think he’s got a great attitude. He’s improved during the course of the year and he’s ready to go each week."

Stidham's throwing coach, Jordan Palmer: “I think he is a star, and he is going to be a big-time franchise quarterback. I have felt that way for a couple years now. I’m totally fine saying that. I don’t care that he went fourth round. I think he is legitimate."

“He is going to be the leader of New England for a long time, whenever that starts. Go ahead and jump on that bandwagon.”​

Now let's examine what the defensive backs who face him in practice are saying:

Stephon Gilmore: "He’s done good. He gives us a great look each and every week, throwing good balls... I feel like he’s gotten better."

Duron Harmon: "You see throws out there that he makes where you’re just like, 'wow'. You can tell he has the intangibles to be a good pro quarterback."

"There are other things he does and (it shows) he’s young, but it’s all a part of the learning process and the learning curve. He’s a guy who comes to work each and every day. He gives us the same attitude. He’s a great teammate. Looking forward to when he gets his chance to see what he can do."

Terrence Brooks: "There have been a few throws that we see in practice where we're like, 'Damn, that was a nice one. He's getting better.'"

"We like that guy. He's a good guy. Good locker room guy. Teammates love him."

"You see a guy who has really tight coverage on somebody, and he finds a place to put it where the DB can't get it. Those are the type of throws that you classify as 'NFL throws.'"

"He moves well. He can get in places he needs to get and make throws he needs to make."

"He’s made some great throws in practice where everybody takes notice. Like, 'Hey man, this dude is getting really good.'"​

How about the guys who are catching his passes?

Phillip Dorsett: "You see [his talent] every day. When he's doing scout team, he has a cannon. He's got a rocket for an arm. I'd say that's his biggest strength. He can make every throw. He throws a pretty catchable pass."

"He’s a good quarterback. I like the way he throws the ball. He spins it."

"He seems real cool and collected. He takes criticism well, doesn’t get down on himself and just goes out there and plays football."

Jacoby Meyers: "I know if we're doing scout team or something, he makes some throws where it's not really our offense and he's just showing his arm off, he's made some pretty crazy throws. I mean, he definitely has a lot of arm talent, and he shows it here and there."

"On the move. In the pocket. He can step in and do all of that."

"It’s easy to follow him on the field. It’s easy to listen to him. He’ll tell you what he wants and how he wants it and you just do it."​

All right, those guys are all on his team. What about some more neutral takes from NFL Draft Analysts?

Daniel Jeremiah: "He throws the best ball out of anybody in this draft. You put them all in shorts and a t-shirt and you would pick Jarrett Stidham as the guy. He’s a great athlete - he just wasn’t a great fit in that Auburn offense after transferring from Baylor."

"Operates in the gun. They throw a lot of those quick tunnel screens, a lot of those short underneath throws because when they do try to go down the field, he’s under constant pressure. That offensive line was out-manned in the SEC this year and as a result, he made some wild throws and missed some easy lay-ups.”

“I went to the Elite 11 last year where all of the top college quarterbacks came in as counselors - and they were all there, I’m talking about Tua (Tagovailoa) from Alabama, Jarrett Stidham was there, Drew Lock, Will Grier - all those guys. And when you watched them all just throw in shorts, I left there saying that Jarrett Stidham throws it better than all those guys. That’s what type of arm talent he has.”

Jim Nagy: "Jarrett's got starter ability. No doubt in my mind. If they develop him right. Again, quarterback play is all about opportunity and situation. I think he's in a good spot to really maximize that. I think Jarrett could definitely be a starter in the NFL."

"It's just natural. He's just a natural thrower. Some of these guys have to get drilled and go to camps. I've made the comment a couple of times over the years down here in Alabama about him, 'Jarrett came out of the womb throwing a football.' It's so natural to him. It doesn't matter if his feet aren't right, if he's off-balance, if he's gotta adjust his arm angle. The ball just comes off his hand so clean. That's why it's so important."

"You see him make a lot of throws under duress. You see him make a lot of tight-window throws. There were a couple of quarterbacks in this draft that really sat back in a clean pocket and played pitch-and-catch all the time. That's not the NFL. When I evaluate quarterbacks I want to see people in their face, throwing into tight windows."

"I go back to seeing Jarrett play Week 1 against Washington this year and you can go back to my Twitter feed from that day back in September. Some of his red-zone throws in that game were incredible. If you want to see a guy's true accuracy. Go do a cut-up of all the red-zone stuff, his ball placement in the red zone. Not even on that day but over the course of the year, he's one of the best in the class and maybe the best in this year's class. He brings a lot to the table. He really does."

National Scout for an NFC team on Stidham's senior year: "That was a really dysfunctional offense this year. The offensive line was bad, the receivers couldn't get open and the coaching was a big problem, I thought. He didn't play well, but he didn't get much help either."​

Remember that prior to Stidham's senior season, he was viewed as a possible 1st round pick.

And when he got on the field in the pre-season last summer, he was at least as good as guys like Garoppolo and Brissett were in the pre-season of their rookie years.



In fact, I see a lot of similarities between that video and the way Garoppolo played in the regular season with the Patriots once he got his shot.

Stidham seems like a good kid who's working hard, getting better, and has some real talent. I don't think it's a huge stretch to think that the Patriots might have found someone with real ability who was in a bad situation at Auburn, and that there's a chance he could be at least a serviceable NFL quarterback.

I'm not suggesting that he's the next Tom Brady.

I do think there's a chance he might be the next Jimmy Garoppolo. And once upon a time, Bill Belichick was ready to turn the keys to the kingdom over to Jimmy G.

I love this post. Nice job.

If Stidham kicks ass this year the rest of the league will tremble.

If Stidham has a decent year and shows gradual improvement then hope springs eternal for 2021.

A true Patriots fan will support Stidham and the team no matter what.
 
What's the worse that can happen? We suck, go 4-12 and potentially get the #1 pick and take Trevor Lawrence in 2021?
 
I'm on Team Whatever QB Can Come In And Do A Credible Job. If that guy's Stid, great but he needs to prove it.
 
That being said, I'd be cool with drafting Jalen Hurts and using him as a change of pace QB and letting him compete with Stidham.
If somehow a kid like Justin Herbert slips in the draft, I'd be OK with the Patriots making a move to bring him in. Beyond that? I'm not sure guys like Love or Eason or Fromm are any better than Stidham. Bring in a veteran backup, and maybe take a kid you like with one of those 6th/7th round picks.

You people really are getting loopy in your isolation. I doubt Stidham can even be an effective back up. Outside of the puff pieces from the people schilling for Kraft and BB, where is this coming from? He played on an exceptionally talented team in Auburn, with a tremendous defense and ran a quasi spread option. His play and stats are unimpressive at best. He had outstanding RBs and a great defense.
This is a reasonable point. And again, I think it goes back to how much of an effect do you think scheme/coaching/poor line play had on Auburn's offense and Stidham's play?

It should be noted that in Stidham's last game of his college career, Gus Malzahn had to resume play-calling duties after Auburn's OC Chip Lindsay took the Head Coaching job at Troy. In the Music City Bowl, Stidham went 15-for-21 for 373 yards, 5 passing TDs, and 0 INTs. And he only played one series in the 2nd half.

Stidham on what went wrong in 2019:

"I think there’s different things that happen throughout the season, and I think myself, Coach (Gus) Malzahn, Coach (Chip) Lindsey, if we were all to kind of look back and go back and read through the season, I think we’d just open it up a lot more. When you lose a guy like (running back) Kerryon Johnson and (guard) Braden Smith up front, some of those guys that have a lot of experience, you just have to find out your identity."

"I told Coach (Josh) McDaniels and Coach (Bill) Belichick, there were definitely times last year where for whatever reason, I just decided to get out of the pocket when I shouldn’t have or just didn’t trust my eyes at a certain point or my feet. That’s something I’ve obviously been working on this spring up to the draft and it’s something I’m going to have to continue to work at in order to get better at the quarterback position."​
 
I'm on team Stidham because that's all we have right now. I have no idea what he was in college since I don't follow the NCAA game.

If Stidham's a bad as you think he is then the Pats are even bigger idiots than I thought for letting Brady go.

This is a reasonable take but it's also not what OP or most agreeing with OP are saying. They specifically think we should not continue to look for an upgrade, which to me is braindead.
 
I think based on what I’ve seen and read that he could be the next Garoppolo if we’re lucky. Not expecting the next Brady, that’s not a reasonable expectation. If the Pats have a shot at someone better than (or more likely to be better than/as good as) Garoppolo, at a reasonable salary/other cost, they should still consider that. If they don’t make a move to upgrade, or they simply draft a mid-round QB or something like that, I’ll be fine with that. Interested to see how things go.
 
GET HIM A STUD TE..!!
 
Are there any Pats fans who aren't on team Stidham? I'd rather see him here than Winston or Newton, as has been suggested.

As long as they don't bring in Andy Dalton. I think we will be okay.
 
BB did not bring in a crappy vet to replace Brady in 08, there's no reason to believe he will do it now.

We got Cassel then, we're getting Stidham now.
 
I liked the bit about him being a first round projection before his senior year ... then Belichick gets him in the 4 th. Haha:cool:
 
What's the worse that can happen? We suck, go 4-12 and potentially get the #1 pick and take Trevor Lawrence in 2021?
Yep.

One thing I do know is by the end of 2020 BB will know if Stidham is "The Guy" or not.
 
You people really are getting loopy in your isolation. I doubt Stidham can even be an effective back up. Outside of the puff pieces from the people schilling for Kraft and BB, where is this coming from? He played on an exceptionally talented team in Auburn, with a tremendous defense and ran a quasi spread option. His play and stats are unimpressive at best. He had outstanding RBs and a great defense.

The biggest game he ever played in was the 2017 SEC Championship game against a Georgia team that they had crushed a few weeks earlier. In that game he was a pedestrian 16-32 for 145 yards in a game that they scored 7 points!

Sure he lit up Mercer, against LSU 9-26 165 yards! 9-26 against a great defense!

Lets move to 2018.
vs LSU 16-28 128 yards (Loss 22-21)
vs Georgia 25-37 172 yards (Loss 27-10)
vs Alabama 15-32 153 yards (Loss 52-21)

He had maybe the best college RB in 2017 in Kerryon Johnson, he got hurt before the second Georgia game and without him, they got crushed.

If the Pats were playing Liberty University, then yeah, Stidham would be OK. Against an NFL team, PLEASE.....

Yeah.. that's really on top of it. So stidham will have his college coaches and teammates against that NFL team? Then you have a thing called development since it's 2 years later since your kinda sophomoric analysis.
 
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This is a reasonable take but it's also not what OP or most agreeing with OP are saying. They specifically think we should not continue to look for an upgrade, which to me is braindead.
I'm saying I like Stidham's upside, and I don't see the need to bring in someone like Winston or Newton or Dalton to be the starter - especially given what they'll cost in terms of salary or trade capital.

I'm absolutely in favor of bringing in a veteran - but I would be looking at someone who can compete with Stidham rather than someone to play in front of him. Give Stidham a chance to win the job in camp.
 
You people really are getting loopy in your isolation. I doubt Stidham can even be an effective back up. Outside of the puff pieces from the people schilling for Kraft and BB, where is this coming from? He played on an exceptionally talented team in Auburn, with a tremendous defense and ran a quasi spread option. His play and stats are unimpressive at best. He had outstanding RBs and a great defense.

The biggest game he ever played in was the 2017 SEC Championship game against a Georgia team that they had crushed a few weeks earlier. In that game he was a pedestrian 16-32 for 145 yards in a game that they scored 7 points!

Sure he lit up Mercer, against LSU 9-26 165 yards! 9-26 against a great defense!

Lets move to 2018.
vs LSU 16-28 128 yards (Loss 22-21)
vs Georgia 25-37 172 yards (Loss 27-10)
vs Alabama 15-32 153 yards (Loss 52-21)

He had maybe the best college RB in 2017 in Kerryon Johnson, he got hurt before the second Georgia game and without him, they got crushed.

If the Pats were playing Liberty University, then yeah, Stidham would be OK. Against an NFL team, PLEASE.....

Well done cherry-picking a 2018 game that fits your narrative. There are a lot of factors that can go into quarterback stats in any one particular game. Should I pull up some of Brady’s stellar game stats over the past 2 years?

The fair thing to do is show all of his game stats from 2017 and let others decide. Please note his performance against Alabama the week before the SEC Championship game. I’ll take that.
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His 2018 stats were obviously not as impressive, which is why he dropped from a potential first round pick into the fourth round but as many have pointed out, there were a lot of factors that may have played a role in that, some which he could have controlled and some which were out of his control.
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Hopefully, his last college game was a sign of things to come. Nobody knows at this point how he’s going to respond if they make him a starter this year. He certainly has starting level physical abilities. If the Pats coaches and scouts, who watched every throw of his college career and every practice throw last year, feel like he has starter potential in the NFL, it is asinine for any of us to state with confidence that he has no chance to be a starter. It is even more asinine to confidently state that he will be lucky to be a backup in the NFL, as at least one of you wrote, given the some of the bums who hang around as backups in the NFL. To that poster....did you actually watch him play in the preseason last year?

We need to give him a chance either succeed or fail next year, instead of slandering him in the offseason after his rookie year because you are #SUPERSAD about losing your hero to Tampa.
 
Let’s get the new chapter going. Next man up!
 
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