Harmon Traded to Lions

Depressing ...

Flash said:

We traded a decent safety on an affordable contract for peanuts.

If this wasn't Belichick making the move, I would have said "The GM is losing it."

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Question of marginal value - he’s good and affordable, but does spending the money on him make the team better compared with spending it on, say, a TE better than LaCosse and Izzy?

Tottie said:

isn't our starting strong safety going to jail or did they figure that? wth!

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charges dropped.


side note: I hate this time of year, roster building. We can't see the forest for the trees or whatever the hell the cliche is. Dumping guys, no cap. I know, in the end, it'll be fine, but Cheezus.

If it was a "fire sale rebuild" they would've tried to get a better pick I would think. A quick trade with an amenable partner for low value tells me they wanted to make some cap space quickly, which would mean they want to spend the money (probably). Doesn't really line up with a "tank job" thought process.

Love Harmon but the position was a bit of a luxury after they paid McCourty, at least in the short term. Would they trade a corner too?

Flash said:

We traded a decent safety on an affordable contract for peanuts.

If this wasn't Belichick making the move, I would have said "The GM is losing it."

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I have to say this is the first time in a while that I am just completely bewildered at what the plan is. Why re-sign McCourty and trade Harmon? Why tender Eluemenor? etc.

It isn't the offseason until we pull a true head-scratcher move.

ChrisR2223 said:

Good move we need to build

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If you want to tank/rebuild you don't sign an older, but better, safety for $10m and then dump the younger, but worse, safety for $5m.

ctpatsfan77 said:

I have to say this is the first time in a while that I am just completely bewildered at what the plan is. Why re-sign McCourty and trade Harmon? Why tender Eluemenor? etc.

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Can’t speak for Eluemenor.... regarding DMac though, he is a team captain. Harmon isn’t. They need captains and leaders to help keep the team focused post-Brady. If Belichick loses the locker room, it’s all over. Not a coincidence that DMac, JMac, and Slater were the first moves this offseason.

NFL rebuilds can take as little as two years. Pats have a boatload of cap space to spend in 2021. If they can get semi competent QB play they can be a legit playoff contender in 2021. They want their leaders on board for that - and they should still be effective players at that point.

Nehalem said:

If you want to tank/rebuild you don't sign an older, but better, safety for $10m and then dump the younger, but worse, safety for $5m.

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We need Robbie Anderson or Breshad Perriman we need a deep threat.

Ross12 said:

If it was a "fire sale rebuild" they would've tried to get a better pick I would think. A quick trade with an amenable partner for low value tells me they wanted to make some cap space quickly, which would mean they want to spend the money (probably). Doesn't really line up with a "tank job" thought process.

Love Harmon but the position was a bit of a luxury after they paid McCourty, at least in the short term. Would they trade a corner too?

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Tough to tank with a top 10 OL, the best secondary in the NFL & Belichick as coach.

The tank comments are absurd unless you moved on from Gilmore. Even then a BB man defense with Jackson, McCourty & Jones isn’t bad enough to get the #1 pick

Nehalem said:

If you want to tank/rebuild you don't sign an older, but better, safety for $10m and then dump the younger, but worse, safety for $5m.

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Maybe they were going on the assumption that they could get back TB12 for another year on the cheap and wanted to keep the band together, but now that TB12 has moved on they're on to a full blown rebuild.

Bill Lee said:

Maybe they were going on the assumption that they could get back TB12 for another year on the cheap and wanted to keep the band together, but now that TB12 has moved on they're on to a full blown rebuild.

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Do you trade McCourty then

frees up around $4mil in cap space and gets another late round pick. My guess is BB is trying to amass every pick in the 6th round in an attempt to replace Brady.

I was thinking that either he or Chung was going to get cut, so I guess something is better than nothing.

patsinthesnow said:

Tough to tank with a top 10 OL, the best secondary in the NFL & Belichick as coach.

The tank comments are absurd unless you moved on from Gilmore. Even then a BB man defense with Jackson, McCourty & Jones isn’t bad enough to get the #1 pick

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top 10 line? did you not watch how bad our oline suck last year?

KontradictioN said:

God damn... maybe we really are tanking. What’s the compensation?

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2020 8th round pick and they swapped 7ths.

Ross12 said:

If it was a "fire sale rebuild" they would've tried to get a better pick I would think. A quick trade with an amenable partner for low value tells me they wanted to make some cap space quickly, which would mean they want to spend the money (probably). Doesn't really line up with a "tank job" thought process.

Love Harmon but the position was a bit of a luxury after they paid McCourty, at least in the short term. Would they trade a corner too?

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If it was a fire sale rebuild they would have kept Harmon and let McCourty walk. It was a salary dump, but with a player whose cap hit was modest and who serves an important role (though key word on role, you're right). The only thing I can guess is that they think someone like Williams or Melifonwu or Brooks is ready to take that role. Maybe they're right, we'll see, but Harmon's a good player and the Lions got him for nothing.

Kdo5 said:

Fire sale. Let’s do it. But why the **** did we resign McCourty?

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To teach the new guys the Patriot way and keep the locker room in check during the transition. My money says Hightower is next with that huge cap hit.

ChrisR2223 said:

Do you trade McCourty then

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Trading McCourty now would acutally add another $5 mil to the cap! (and leave over $10 mil in dead money) So no, they are not trading McCourty.

primetime said:

He's a top-10 safety in the NFL and they gave him away? I guess he's a luxury but goddamn.

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Hahahahahahaha.

I'm with @Ross12 on this. Even without knowing the actual compensation this certainly reads like a cap manoeuvre.